The War on Drugs has Failed

[oklavol]

Originally Posted by KB5252

I don't think them being illegal will keep people from using i just think it helps to keep them underground and a little harder to obtain. Granted they are easy enough to find if you are using but the harder to obtain the better as far as I'm concerned.

See bold above.

For the record I think we do waste a lot of money fighting drugs but they still need to be kept illegal and stiff penalties need to be enforced JMO.

There's a prison overcrowding issue, that if they stopped throwing addicts in prison it would reduce.

[cd12]

Well now days you have Drs. playing the game....prescribed drugs are big business and just as if not more heavily abused.Which brought on a whole different kind of fight.

[Dustin4Vols]

legalize weed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by oklavol

There's a prison overcrowding issue, that if they stopped throwing addicts in prison it would reduce.

And crime would increase. The people usually involved in drugs are not choir boys and girl scouts. Those that are convicted on drug charges quite often have extensive criminal pasts, charges other than drug related offenses.

[oklavol]

Originally Posted by KB5252

And crime would increase. The people usually involved in drugs are not choir boys and girl scouts. Those that are convicted on drug charges quite often have extensive criminal pasts, charges other than drug related offenses.

some of them are criminals, but a lot of wealthy people use drugs too. Look at celebrity rehab, as an example. Those people are not stealing to use drugs (yet).

The amount of money being spent in prosecuting people for drug use would be better used somewhere else, thats really my point.

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by oklavol

some of them are criminals, but a lot of wealthy people use drugs too. Look at celebrity rehab, as an example. Those people are not stealing to use drugs.

The amount of money being spent in prosecuting people for drug use would be better used somewhere else, thats really my point.

I understand your point and agree that not all drug users are violent criminals, however many would agree that drugs and violence quite often go hand in hand. Many of the drugs in question make people more violent.

Even if these harder drugs are legal they will still have to be paid for by those who are addicted to them. If they are addicted odds are very good they will not be able to hold down a job and will have to fund their habits in some way. How does one make money for nothing? By stealing, robbing etc.

As we have also seen from the Hollywood types you mentioned they are quite often involved in other illegal activity, sometimes violent but because we in America are seem to have a double standard for them the justice system shows them favor and we hardly bat an eye.

[rjd970]

Originally Posted by KB5252

I understand your point and agree that not all drug users are violent criminals, however many would agree that drugs and violence quite often go hand in hand. Many of the drugs in question make people more violent.

Even if these harder drugs are legal they will still have to be paid for by those who are addicted to them. If they are addicted odds are very good they will not be able to hold down a job and will have to fund their habits in some way. How does one make money for nothing? By stealing, robbing etc.

As we have also seen from the Hollywood types you mentioned they are quite often involved in other illegal activity, sometimes violent but because we in America are seem to have a double standard for them the justice system shows them favor and we hardly bat an eye.

Weren't many of these arguments used during prohibition too?

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by rjd970

Weren't many of these arguments used during prohibition too?

Maybe, but alcohol is bad for you if you abuse it. Meth is bad for you (and highly addictive), coke is very bad for you (highly addictive), heroin is bad for you (highly addictive).

The main difference between alcohol and the drugs i mentioned are that alcohol is addictive when abused for a period of time. These drugs are addictive from the first time you ever introduce them into your system. For the most part alcoholics have to work at destroying their lives with it. For many drug users all it takes is one or two times and you can be hooked.

[Fine Vol]

War on drugs is as strong as ever!!!!!

On a totally unrelated note does any one know where I can get some GONGA?

[UT IE 95]

Originally Posted by Fine Vol

War on drugs is as strong as ever!!!!!

On a totally unrelated note does any one know where I can get some GONGA?

Gonja?

[Fine Vol]

Gonja O so you know, that was a trick to find the real dealer

[dantheman617]

Its Odweeds man!

[therealUT]

Originally Posted by KB5252

Maybe, but alcohol is bad for you if you abuse it. Meth is bad for you (and highly addictive), coke is very bad for you (highly addictive), heroin is bad for you (highly addictive).

The main difference between alcohol and the drugs i mentioned are that alcohol is addictive when abused for a period of time. These drugs are addictive from the first time you ever introduce them into your system. For the most part alcoholics have to work at destroying their lives with it. For many drug users all it takes is one or two times and you can be hooked.

There are plenty of people who are genetically predisposed to be addicted to alcohol from the very first sip. Also, there are plenty of people who snort cocaine once and never again.

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by therealUT

There are plenty of people who are genetically predisposed to be addicted to alcohol from the very first sip. Also, there are plenty of people who snort cocaine once and never again.

I can't argue with that much. I will however point out that those who are predisposed to alcoholism are usually have addictive personalities and would just as likely be addicted to any drug as they would be to alcohol.

The cocaine part I agree with. Heroine and meth are different stories, they are even more addictive than cocaine by far.

[OWB]

Originally Posted by KB5252

It all depends on how much of each gets used. Alcohol in small amounts can be beneficial. Use too much of it and it causes serious health concerns.

Marijuana used in small amounts shouldn't cause any health concerns. Use too much and it does lead to lung disease, not too mention infections of the lungs especially during the winter season.

Don't forget about pot for medicinal use. It really does a wide variety of things for people with various illnesses.