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Old 12-08-2008, 04:34 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Toyota, Honda and Nissan are hurting because they are getting serious competition from Kia and Hyundai.

GM is considering cutting Saturn and Saab loose. Saturn has some interesting cars, but I never saw the point of considering yourself "a different kind of car, a different kind of car company" if you're still part of the GM family and your first offerings were buzzy, underpowered and cramped crapboxes.
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Old 12-08-2008, 04:56 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Toyota's are the real deal but Honda is the most overrated car on the road.
I drive an Acura and there's nothing overrated about it. It's comfortable, fast, dependable and fun to drive.
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Old 12-08-2008, 05:35 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I drive an Acura and there's nothing overrated about it. It's comfortable, fast, dependable and fun to drive.
Oh I'm just bitter because I've had 2 Honda's that were lemons. I currently drive an 06 Civic and I have had trouble with it. The best vehicle I've owned til now was a Toyota Tacoma 4x4. I miss that truck and I might have to get another one at some point. Thinking about some of the things I did to that truck and It was just so solid. I couldn't tear it up if I tried.

Sorry for the thread hijack, I know this is not the subject.

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Old 12-08-2008, 10:07 PM   #34 (permalink)
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If by not doing well, you mean that their gross profit margin has dropped from 19.5% to 17.5%, and their net profit margin holding steady between 6% and 7%, over three years, then I assume you are correct...[/quot
Sales down 34% in Nov. they are doing real great.
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Toyota’s November Sales Down 33.9% | The Truth About Cars
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A sea of unwanted auto imports - International Herald Tribune
LOOKING GOOD HUH.
An absolutely terrible month over three years of prosperity...OH THE HORROR!
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:20 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Oh I'm just bitter because I've had 2 Honda's that were lemons. I currently drive an 06' Civic and I have had trouble with it. The best vehicle I ever owned til now was a Toyota Tacoma 4x4. I miss that truck and I might have to get another one at some point. Thinking about some of the things I did to that truck and It was just so solid. I couldn't tear it up if I tried.

Sorry for the thread hijack, I know this is not the subject.
I love Toyota trucks too! the last one I had was when I was 16 - 19 just regular 4x2 (had over 250,000 miles on it) and now they are more American than my Escape.
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:36 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I love Toyota trucks too! the last one I had was when I was 16 - 19 just regular 4x2 (had over 250,000 miles on it) and now they are more American than my Escape.
Your Japanese car is more American than my American car... my car was assembled in Canada and made from parts manufactured in either Germany or Mexico. Not a single bit American, ironically enough.
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:59 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Toyota, Honda and Nissan are hurting because they are getting serious competition from Kia and Hyundai.

GM is considering cutting Saturn and Saab loose. Saturn has some interesting cars, but I never saw the point of considering yourself "a different kind of car, a different kind of car company" if you're still part of the GM family and your first offerings were buzzy, underpowered and cramped crapboxes.
How many 10 year old saturns do you see on the road. None. They are a piece of crap with an effective life span of about 5 years.
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Here is a picture of my hybrid. (powered by corn)





















How many ten year old cougars do you see on the road??















These pics came from a guy in NM. Yes, the mule killed the mountain lion. The lion had been stalking them for the better part of the morning, on the way out to a hunt. They were pretty sure it was after one of the dogs. The cat ambushed them, and the mule pictured tossed its rider and went into attack (defense) mode, the horses scattered and shots were fired but no one was sure if they hit the cat or not. Unfortunately, it wasn't until it was almost over that one of the guys started snapping pics. The mule finally stomped the cougar to death after biting and throwing it around like a rag doll. The dogs wouldn't even come close until the mule settled down. The cat was still alive here and trying to fight back.



The mule stomped the cat then pinned it to the ground and bit the heck out of the dead cat several more times.



The cat was pretty much dead by now then the mule picked up the cat again and whipped it into the air then stomped the dead cat again for good measure!



Note the dog audience.... Gives new meaning to the term "BAD ASS"
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Old 12-16-2008, 06:51 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I would demand they quit overpaying their workers, who produce a product that nobody wants, which is then sold at a loss. Thanks called a bad business model. See Toyota and Honda on how to run a car company.
Starting with the executives.
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Old 12-16-2008, 08:47 AM   #40 (permalink)
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you realize that story is not what happened right gsvol? I mean, I know how you guys are with your historical accuracy around here
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you realize that story is not what happened right gsvol? I mean, I know how you guys are with your historical accuracy around here
Well my dad always said; "If you tell everything you know then everyone knows more than you."

And Cicero said; "To be ignorant of what happened before you were born is to remain forever a child."

In the current political landscape with our new president being elected by the feel good generation and who is searching animal shelters for a new pet for the new feel good White house, it probably wouldn't be wise to tell them doodly.

Nice hybrid though, huh???

Reminds me of a yankee that moved down here and bought a farm by the river.

One day he was down at the feed store and ran into the guy who had the farm directly across the river from him and complimented him on how nice it looked. He went on to say that he loved to bird hunt and bet he had lots of birds over there.

The southerner allowed he did have a few covies and invited him over for a hunt the next Saturday. The yankee said he would bring along a couple of pointers but was told to not bother, he wouldn't need to bring them.

Next Saturday came along and the yankee showed up bright and early and the two of them started off toward the barn lot with guns and gear all at the ready.

The yankee asked about the dogs and the farmer said he would get Clyde as they passed the barn. After the farmer went into the barn to get Clyde he emerged with a mule.

The yankee asked where was the dog and was told they wouldn't need a dog as long as they had Clyde, Clyde would find all the birds they needed and sure enough as they walked though the garden spot Clyde slid to a halt and went on a point as beautiful as any English pointer you have ever seen, with one foot in the air and tail raised at a perfect angle.

They approached and flushed a huge covey of birds and downed four, both getting a double. The yankee said he would run get the birds but the farmer told him to just stand still, Clyde would do that.

And sure enough, when the farmer gave Clyde permission to break point, he trotted over and picked each bird up with his lips as gentle as you can imagine and not only retrieved them but gave each bird to whoever who had shot it.

The newcomer was totally flabbergasted and fell silent and they hunted until each had his limit while Clyde performed flawlessly all morning.

When they got back to the barn before the farmer could put Clyde away, the yankee offered to buy his mule and offered $500 which was turned down immediately.

He said he just had to have that mule and offered $5,000 which was rejected as well.

"Well then", said the yankee, "I'll give you $10,000 for that mule, there's no way you can turn that down!"

"Yes there is", said the farmer, "it wouldn't be fair to you 'cause you live on the other side of the river."

"What's that have to do with anything?"

"Well, iffen there's anything that Clyde loves better than bird hunting, it's fishing and you'd just never get him to the other side."


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