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Old 11-30-2008, 10:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Washington, D.C., November 20, 2008 – Are most people, including college graduates,
civically illiterate? Do elected officials know even less than most citizens about civic topics such as history, government, and economics? The answer is yes on both counts according to a new study by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute (ISI). More than 2,500 randomly selected Americans took ISI’s basic 33question test on civic literacy and more than 1,700 people failed, with the average score 49 percent, or an “F.” Elected officials scored even lower than the general public with an average score of 44 percent and only 0.8 percent (or 21) of all surveyed earned an “A.” Even more startling is the fact that over twice as many people know Paula Abdul was a judge on American Idol than know that the phrase “government of the people, by the people, for the people” comes from Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address.

http://www.americancivicliteracy.org...e_11-20-08.pdf

Civic Literacy Report - Civics Quiz

http://www.americancivicliteracy.org...l_finding.html
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 11-30-2008, 02:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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91% for me too. missed 27, 30 and 33.
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Old 11-30-2008, 02:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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91% for me.
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Old 11-30-2008, 05:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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91% for me too. missed 27, 30 and 33.
I missed the exact same questions. Some of those answers are a little vague IMO.
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:27 AM   #6 (permalink)
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It seems really strange that an officeholder would not know what makes up the three branches of government. On the other hand, it is pretty well documented that most Americans fail at our own history, and that many immigrants who take the U.S. naturalization exam know more than we do. Also, I highly doubt I would have done as well had I been administered the exam by phone (which was their method), rather than by the internet. Having been a surveyor I can tell you that phone interviews are a pain in the ass because it can become hard to keep track of the answers as time goes on, especially when it is multiple choice instead of a scale / Likert scale. Still, the results are pretty pitiful no matter how you look at it.
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91% for me too. missed 27, 30 and 33.
I missed 27 and 33, but got 30 correct. I missed 4 and 8 as well for an 87.88%. I hang my head.
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The last one about tax revenues and expenditures had 2 choices that both seemed only partially right. I'm guessing most of us picked that the debt would be zero if tax revenues equalled government expenditures. If it said deficit, we would be correct but there could have been prior debt so wasn't technically right - however, it was missing information.

The other choice (and right answer) didn't sound right either since it used terms like average tax per individual and average expenditures per person. Technically this is correct but we all know that different individuals contribute different amounts of tax revenue and receive differing amounts of government expenditures. It was a bit misleading if you ask me.
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Missed 4,7,27

Looks like #27 was the killer on this test.
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For some stupid reason, I missed 30.
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I missed 27 and 33. 27 had ludicrous choices for answers.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Now I can't remember what I missed - I think I got 27 and 30 correct. Definitely missed 33.
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Now I can't remember what I missed - I think I got 27 and 30 correct. Definitely missed 33.

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I got 33!
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It was 4, 15 and 33 that I missed.

Also, why is Sputnik a civics related issue? I know it was big in the space race but really?
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It was 4, 15 and 33 that I missed.

Also, why is Sputnik a civics related issue? I know it was big in the space race but really?
some of it mattered, but most was trivia.

who cares where Jefferson penned the "wall of separation?" I just want people to know that he did pen it and the idea has become a part of what we believe to be right. Same with "government of the people...."
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