change?

[joevol320]

he picks hillary as the sec of state, he has many clintonites on his staff. i guess the only change we'll get is that we'll have our taxes raised higher than clinton did. what a joke

[MG1968]

Obama supporters who call into John Gibson's radio show claim that they loved the Clinton administration so they see no problem with bringing back a bunch of Clintonistas to help Obama "rule" the country. Somewhat ironic given their attitudes during the primaries.

[rjd970]

Originally Posted by MG1968

Obama supporters who call into John Gibson's radio show claim that they loved the Clinton administration so they see no problem with bringing back a bunch of Clintonistas to help Obama "rule" the country. Somewhat ironic given their attitudes during the primaries.

Hillary was never president, and Bill wasn't running. It should be more of an issue with you guys with a single party controlling both houses of congress. A Clintonesque administration is just fine when kept in check by a opposite controlled congress.

This fascination that you guys have with nitpicking every little thing about a guy that isn't even president yet is unhealthy.

[SavageOrangeJug]

Originally Posted by rjd970

Hillary was never president, and Bill wasn't running. It should be more of an issue with you guys with a single party controlling both houses of congress. A Clintonesque administration is just fine when kept in check by a opposite controlled congress.

This fascination that you guys have with nitpicking every little thing about a guy that isn't even president yet is unhealthy.

Wrong, as usual.

Barack Obama's serious flirtation with his one-time rival, Hillary Clinton, over the post of secretary of State has been welcomed by everyone from Henry Kissinger to Bill Clinton as an effective, grand gesture by the president-elect.

It's not playing quite as well, however, in some precincts of Obamaland. From his supporters on the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, to campaign aides of the soon-to-be commander-in-chief, there's a sense of ambivalence about giving a top political plum to a woman they spent 18 months hammering as the compromised standard-bearer of an era that deserves to be forgotten.

"These are people who believe in this stuff more than Barack himself does," said a Democrat close to Obama's campaign. "These guys didn't put together a campaign in order to turn the government over to the Clintons."

Cabinet post for Clinton roils Obamaland

[MG1968]

Originally Posted by rjd970

Hillary was never president, and Bill wasn't running. It should be more of an issue with you guys with a single party controlling both houses of congress. A Clintonesque administration is just fine when kept in check by a opposite controlled congress.

This fascination that you guys have with nitpicking every little thing about a guy that isn't even president yet is unhealthy.

what are you babbling about? In the post that you quoted, I didn't say a thing about Obama himself, just his supporters that were calling into a radio show that I listen to.

[rjd970]

Originally Posted by SavageOrangeJug

Wrong, as usual.




Cabinet post for Clinton roils Obamaland

A qualifier for your first statement would be nice, and I am not arguing the point of your link.

[rjd970]

Originally Posted by MG1968

what are you babbling about? In the post that you quoted, I didn't say a thing about Obama himself, just his supporters that were calling into a radio show that I listen to.

There is a bigger context than this single quote. So you've been completely fair and unbiased about your views on Obama in this board?

Who cares if Clinton people are in his administration, and who cares what Obama supporters think about it.

[MG1968]

I've never pretended to be unbiased.

So now the Obama team shouldn't care about what the voters who put them there think? That's the height of arrogance and hubris.

Clinton era retreads are preferable, however, to the travelers in the circles Obama cut his political teeth in. With luck, they will keep him pulled to the center and mitigate some of the damage his radical views have the potential of causing the country.

[615 Vol]

Originally Posted by joevol320

he picks hillary as the sec of state, he has many clintonites on his staff. i guess the only change we'll get is that we'll have our taxes raised higher than clinton did. what a joke

Is that official, Hillary as the S of S? I know he was interviewing Bill Richardson also, I haven't heard anything on this.

[rjd970]

Originally Posted by MG1968

I've never pretended to be unbiased.

So now the Obama team shouldn't care about what the voters who put them there think? That's the height of arrogance and hubris.

Clinton era retreads are preferable, however, to the travelers in the circles Obama cut his political teeth in. With luck, they will keep him pulled to the center and mitigate some of the damage his radical views have the potential of causing the country.

Sure, I still say who cares, most of all any republican looking for an excuse to rant. There are much more legitimate issues to rant over. Besides, Clinton understood (at least more so than Obama has let on) the power of a free market, so I would think republicans would welcome these type people over who he could have put in.

Although, the democratic party was split pretty evenly throughout the primaries between Obama and Clinton. I would bet roughly half of the people that voted for Obama in the general election voted for Hillary in the primary, so I am sure they aren't disappointed. You can't please everybody.

[MG1968]

some of the more pragmatic people on my side think that by taking Hillary out of the Senate, Obama is removing a potential source of major legislative headaches.

[truefan]

Originally Posted by MG1968

I've never pretended to be unbiased.

So now the Obama team shouldn't care about what the voters who put them there think? That's the height of arrogance and hubris.

Clinton era retreads are preferable, however, to the travelers in the circles Obama cut his political teeth in. With luck, they will keep him pulled to the center and mitigate some of the damage his radical views have the potential of causing the country.

Please specify these...and any damage YOU think they might cause is purely your right wing opinion on the matter and not a point of fact.

IMHO, Obama will govern from the center by his choice, which in practical matters, is the best choice

[truefan]

Originally Posted by joevol320

he picks hillary as the sec of state, he has many clintonites on his staff. i guess the only change we'll get is that we'll have our taxes raised higher than clinton did. what a joke

Do you ever read anything but right wing rhetoric?

[rjd970]

Originally Posted by MG1968

some of the more pragmatic people on my side think that by taking Hillary out of the Senate, Obama is removing a potential source of major legislative headaches.

How much power can she really wield in the senate as one person who has only been there a couple of years? Legislatively, I think her and Obama agree more than they disagree.

It sees to me that possibly giving her the SoS position gives her more individual power.

[GAVol]

Originally Posted by rjd970

It sees to me that possibly giving her the SoS position gives her more individual power.

Absolutely it does. For all of her notoriety, she's still the Junior Senator from New York.