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11-15-2008, 08:24 PM
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| | Rational Thought Allowed?
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| Imagine that!
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In a new afterword to his memoir, 1960s radical William Ayers writes that the campaign controversy over their relationship was an effort by Obama's political enemies to "deepen a dishonest narrative" about the candidate.
“We had served together on the board of a foundation, knew one another as neighbors and family friends, held an initial fund-raiser at my house, where I’d made a small donation to his earliest political campaign,” he writes.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politic...11308.article# | Great timing, right???
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11-15-2008, 08:47 PM
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| | We have a baby girl
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| haha ayers is a clown, but so is obama
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11-16-2008, 10:13 AM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya
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| but that bit about the fundraiser at Ayers' house is a fabrication. Heck, I've read that on this very board many times myself, so Ayers must be making up that part.
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11-16-2008, 11:16 AM
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| | doo doo doo
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| Even more amazing is his claim that his bombings weren't terrorism since no one was killed (except for that cop I suppose). Unbelievable.
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11-16-2008, 01:22 PM
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| | Nine times...Nine Times
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| I wonder how much the Obama campaign paid Ayers to keep his mouth shut through Nov. 4?
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11-16-2008, 01:30 PM
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| | January 24th
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Originally Posted by MG1968  I wonder how much the Obama campaign paid Ayers to keep his mouth shut through Nov. 4? |
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11-16-2008, 01:46 PM
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| | Football Jones
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| I'll say it again, Wright going off at the NPC was a set up. | |
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11-17-2008, 09:53 AM
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| | say that one more time
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Originally Posted by allvol123 I'll say it again, Wright going off at the NPC was a set up. | Yep, it was done in order to give Obama a reason to distance himself and not look weak while doing it. Made all the more clear since afterward Wright went MIA.
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11-17-2008, 01:41 PM
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| | Nine times...Nine Times
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| what was really ridiculous was when Ayers claimed that he and his ilk were on the right side of both history and the ideological front. He also said that present-day war protesters weren't doing enough, I suppose that means they should be setting bombs.
I wouldn't shed a tear, I might even chuckle a little at the irony, if Ayers/Dorn meet the same fate they had planned for either John Murtagh's father or the NCO dance at Ft. Dix.
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11-17-2008, 01:45 PM
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| What, exactly, do you guys think is going to happen because of the Ayers connection? Do you think that Obama is going to take a particular action because of it?
Now that the election is over, and the generalized claim that having anything to do with Ayers reflects, again generally, on poor judgment by Obama at that point in time (or even generally), I think the people who continue to bring this up need to trace some particular anticipated action to it so that we can see if it actually matters. Otherwise, it just seems like a distraction that means nothing. | |
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11-17-2008, 01:49 PM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 What, exactly, do you guys think is going to happen because of the Ayers connection? Do you think that Obama is going to take a particular action because of it?
Now that the election is over, and the generalized claim that having anything to do with Ayers reflects, again generally, on poor judgment by Obama at that point in time (or even generally), I think the people who continue to bring this up need to trace some particular anticipated action to it so that we can see if it actually matters. Otherwise, it just seems like a distraction that means nothing. | It makes him a fraud and the media complicit in trying to sweep under the rug that Obama's political career started in Ayers' living room. The relationship wasn't a casual passing on a corporate board.
Whether it becomes anything isn't the point. The point was our watchdog press worked hard to keep this story quiet until now.
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11-17-2008, 01:49 PM
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| | Repeat Offender
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| I hate it when LG1 is the voice of reason.
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11-17-2008, 01:53 PM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya
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Originally Posted by superdave1984 I hate it when LG1 is the voice of reason. | he has lost any semblance of reason when he ranted, well after the election, about the bias of the Fox guys.
I guess he's reasonable, if you're hyper-liberal. | |
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11-17-2008, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol he has lost any semblance of reason when he ranted, well after the election, about the bias of the Fox guys.
I guess he's reasonable, if you're hyper-liberal. |
My disgust with Fox is actually not related to whether Obama should or should not be president. I've ranted about Fox for years, including on here in many contexts. Just so happens that their open campaigning for anything not Obama highlighted it and made it obvious. Don't confuse the two. | |
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11-17-2008, 02:12 PM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 My disgust with Fox is actually not related to whether Obama should or should not be president. I've ranted about Fox for years, including on here in many contexts. Just so happens that their open campaigning for anything not Obama highlighted it and made it obvious. Don't confuse the two. | Surely, then, you're offended by MSNBC openly campaigning for anything Obama.
I find the two confusing. Here is Ayers clearly saying that all of the liberal commentators working hard to debunk the "started in Ayers' living room" story were dead wrong. You simply ignore it by calling it immaterial because the election's over. The sorriness of the press as a proper vetting vehicle hasn't changed because the election's over.
It has changed because the overwhelmingly liberal bias out there doesn't bother you in the least. | |
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