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10-10-2008, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by VolByBirth  That's naive and wrong. In just one example, most research based PhD's make average incomes at best. Take a look at the number of government pay scale PhD's doing cancer research and other important jobs. There is no private market for this. I can also guarantee many of them are smarter than you.
I'd also argue that when wealth is built on fraud then you really can't argue importance either. | There are plenty of people I wouldn't consider smart who make a lot of money.
My father never went to college but he owns two companies.
Also now you are starting to talk about gov't jobs versus the private sector which are two totally different things (unless Obama has his way). | 
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10-10-2008, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jcwvolfan Looks like someone listened to Rush yesterday. | Nope - I came up with this one all by myself 
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10-10-2008, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JZVOL It's easy really... who was more valuable, Henry Ford or the assembly line workers?
Those workers only had jobs because of Ford, not the other way around. Those workers can be easily replaced, Ford not so much. | Looking at individual cases, yes you can say that. Looking at their collective classes, it's not so easy. | |
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10-10-2008, 12:40 PM
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| I have never been employed by a poor person or by a person who receives the earned income tax credit.
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10-10-2008, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by volinbham Nope - I came up with this one all by myself | people find it hard to believe that you can be conservative and come to your own conclusions without one of the talking heads. | |
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10-10-2008, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol people find it hard to believe that you can be conservative and come to your own conclusions without one of the talking heads. | but the Dems do not listen to any of them | |
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10-10-2008, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol people find it hard to believe that you can be conservative and come to your own conclusions without one of the talking heads. | It works both ways, it is because the majority of liberals and the majority of conservatives can't come to their own conclusions. This board is a prime example. | |
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10-10-2008, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by emainvol it is because the majority of liberals can't come to their own conclusions. The liberals on this board are a prime example. | I'm surprised to hear you say that  . | |
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10-10-2008, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol I'm surprised to hear you say that . | Unfortunately, you aren't that far off. | |
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10-10-2008, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by emainvol Looking at individual cases, yes you can say that. Looking at their collective classes, it's not so easy. | A smaller example. My father is far more important to the economy and financial success of the country than the 100 or so people he employs.
A working class is very important but when you start trying to bring down the higher classes to "even" things out it creates giant problems. | |
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10-10-2008, 12:55 PM
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| BHO's tax plan answers the debate. Who does he say we have to have "step up" to get the country "back on track". | |
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10-10-2008, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by VolByBirth That's naive and wrong. In just one example, most research based PhD's make average incomes at best. Take a look at the number of government pay scale PhD's doing cancer research and other important jobs. There is no private market for this. I can also guarantee many of them are smarter than you. | These folks get above average pay without a doubt or at least above median pay.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, annual salaries for these professions in the 70-90k range. That alone puts them well above the median household income.
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10-10-2008, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MG1968 I have never been employed by a poor person or by a person who receives the earned income tax credit. | Define poor? | |
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10-10-2008, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by VolByBirth Define poor? | someone who can't afford to hire me.
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