why according to Mccain and Obama are poor people more important than rich people?

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by DAVOL

Funny I think the same of your politics

Of course you do. I've already made clear that you can't reason.

[DAVOL]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

not necessarily. I think you're mixing lesser paid folks with factory jobs.

Not necessarily is not a sentence.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by DAVOL

Not necessarily is not a sentence.

well done (which isn't technically a sentence either).

Don't tell anyone, but "not necessarily" without quotes isn't a subject either.

[emainvol]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

not necessarily. I think you're mixing lesser paid folks with factory jobs.

I am, but to get back to my point, are the working class and the upper classes not dependent on one another? By that logic, is it possible to measure importance?

[volmanbill]

Because there are more poor voters than rich voters.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by emainvol

I am, but to get back to my point, are the working class and the upper classes not dependent on one another? By that logic, is it possible to measure importance?

in economic terms as individual contributors, sure it's possible to measure.

As collective classes, it's probably not possible to measure.

Bottom line is that lame ass politicians are simply pandering for votes by making a truckload of hollow promises to the working man.

[jcwvolfan]

Originally Posted by droski

i didn't say the factory worker was useless just not as important as the person making 10 times his income and sure as hell not MORE important.

Actually, as far as the market is concerned the person earning 400k is worth 10 times the person earning 40k. That may sound harsh but I’m not talking about a persons worth as a human being; because there are some people earning 40k that have a higher value to society than some earning 400k and visa versa. But speaking strictly on a market basis, those who earn more are worth more.

As far as consumption is concerned, those who earn more return more into the market through purchasing more consumer goods. This creates a demand for the production of said goods. This creates jobs. Not just factory jobs, but also management, accounting, marketing, IT etc. And as previously stated, these higher earners also pay a lot more (as a matter of fact a disproportionate amount) in income taxes. These tax dollars go to help support many of the services and entitlements consumed by those who pay very little to no income tax.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by jcwvolfan

Actually, as far as the market is concerned the person earning 400k is worth 10 times the person earning 40k. That may sound harsh but I’m not talking about a persons worth as a human being; because there are some people earning 40k that have a higher value to society than some earning 400k and visa versa. But speaking strictly on a market basis, those who earn more are worth more.

As far as consumption is concerned, those who earn more return more into the market through purchasing more consumer goods. This creates a demand for the production of said goods. This creates jobs. Not just factory jobs, but also management, accounting, marketing, IT etc. And as previously stated, these higher earners also pay a lot more (as a matter of fact a disproportionate amount) in income taxes. These tax dollars go to help support many of the services and entitlements consumed by those who pay very little to no income tax.

exactly. the rich are better and mean more.

I say weshould have minimum annual income for voting rights and those on the gov't cheese, unless earned via work or retirement, have no right to vote.

[T-TownVol]

Originally Posted by DAVOL

Then why is McCain and Obama mentioned in the thread title hmmm I thought they were running for office.You know your disdain for my ignorance makes me laugh.

fyp

[KingNick865]

Originally Posted by droski

I'm sick of all this "wall street" vs "main street" bs. Why should we care more about the average factory worker making 40K a year than we do the wall street trader making 400K a year? who pays more in taxes? who supports all the unemployed and lazy and dumb people in this country? who spends more money? who buys the goods that the factory worker is making? who is smarter? who is more important to the future of america? I'm sick of this .

You must have not lived a day in the shoes of the factory worker if you belive that load of crap.

[Crew]

...This is a revealing and disturbing thread.

[myrobbins7]

Originally Posted by Crew

...This is a revealing and disturbing thread.

Gotta love the Politics threads.

[VolByBirth]

Originally Posted by droski

I'm sick of all this "wall street" vs "main street" bs. Why should we care more about the average factory worker making 40K a year than we do the wall street trader making 400K a year? who pays more in taxes? who supports all the unemployed and lazy and dumb people in this country? who spends more money? who buys the goods that the factory worker is making? who is smarter? who is more important to the future of america? I'm sick of this .

Sounds like someone is very bitter about being burned in the equities market lately.

[JZVOL]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

in economic terms as individual contributors, sure it's possible to measure.

As collective classes, it's probably not possible to measure.

Bottom line is that lame ass politicians are simply pandering for votes by making a truckload of hollow promises to the working man.

Yea, it's the same as people saying Dem's care more about black people than Repub's.

[therealUT]

Originally Posted by DAVOL

Sad so sad that you are serious.

The only sad part is that years of entitlement legislation have forced us to export jobs halfway around the world in order to be cost efficient. If you want to keep jobs in the US, then work to get rid of the minimum wage.