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Old 10-07-2008, 11:27 PM   #241 (permalink)
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I just don't see how McCain didn't come to the debate tonight with either a focused economic plan or just go for the Obama's throat. It was a very ho-hum performance.
I agree. I was sure we'd see an onside kick, instead McCain just took a knee. I won't be surprised to learn after all is said and done that he was really sick during all of this. What else could explain such a miserable campaign?
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:46 PM   #242 (permalink)
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Does anyone see this Obama hack on Fox?
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:47 PM   #243 (permalink)
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Does anyone see this Obama hack on Fox?
That guy was an embarrassment. I think Hannity is a douche, but he should have smacked that guy.
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:48 PM   #244 (permalink)
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Does anyone see this Obama hack on Fox?
I did...Hannity looked caught off guard. Say what you will, but this guilt by asociation business is a pathetic hail mary pass to turn around the campaign.
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I did...Hannity looked caught off guard. Say what you will, but this guilt by asociation business is a pathetic hail mary pass to turn around the campaign.
Um no, it's reasonable to ask about him and other associations of Obama's. What he tried to do with Hannity was a reach, to put it mildly.
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I did...Hannity looked caught off guard. Say what you will, but this guilt by asociation business is a pathetic hail mary pass to turn around the campaign.
It is a hail mary . . . but I think it does have a little bit of validity in the case of Ayers. The Obama/Ayers connection is at least a little odd. It goes a little beyond guilt by association. They were closer than that.
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Um no, it's reasonable to ask about him and other associations of Obama's. What he tried to do with Hannity was a reach, to put it mildly.

How exactly has this tactic helped McCain so far?
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That guy was an idiot.

He didn't do anything to help Obama with that argument...all he did was fail at making Hannity look bad.
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:53 PM   #249 (permalink)
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It is a hail mary . . . but I think it does have a little bit of validity in the case of Ayers. The Obama/Ayers connection is at least a little odd.
As Colmes said, conservatives and Reagan appointees sat on the board...to put it midly, it would be a stretch to try and associate them with this guy too.
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How exactly has this tactic helped McCain so far?
Give it a couple of days and I think there might be some effect.
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:57 PM   #251 (permalink)
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Whether it totally makes sense or not based on the issues...Obama won this debate...he did it on the economy...and the first 3/4 of the debate or so.

McCain got his feet under him on Georgia and took it over from there - which saved him from a blow out in minds of most independents, IMO. However, I think the damage was done...we'll see how the polling works out....
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My favorite moment of the debate came when McCain referred to Obama as "That One." Is that some sort of cutesy nickname for his friend and colleague, or does John McCain absolutely hate Barack Obama?

YouTube - McCain Calls Obama "That One"
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McCAin's best moments were the question on Israel from the Naval officer and his answer to the very last question. The problem is that there were about 3 people still awake by that point in the debate.
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Give it a couple of days and I think there might be some effect.
It has been all over the conservative radio for months. Hannity and Limbaugh feel the need to mention it about once every 10 minutes. All it does is make conservatives hate him more, and does not persuade democrats. Undecides obviously don't care because they are still undecided with a month left.

It is silly to say Obama subscribes to the views this guy had 40 years ago, or endorses what he did. It is, in fact, a stretch. A hail mary.
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McCAin's best moments were the question on Israel from the Naval officer and his answer to the very last question. The problem is that there were about 3 people still awake by that point in the debate.
I agree with that. Obama clearly did not answer the Israel/Iran question.
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