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09-01-2008, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MontereyVol That's exactly what I don't want to see happen! But he is right the parenting thing is annoying. | I agree with you, there are a lot of working mother's with children. I also know working mother's with special needs children. |
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09-01-2008, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by volsgal03 I agree with you, there are a lot of working mother's with children. I also know working mother's with special needs children. | My wife and I have two kids (and she outranks me  ). So guess who takes care of the kids when she isn't able to? That should stop that argument.  |
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09-01-2008, 12:51 AM
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| my sister makes more money than my brother-in-law. He watches them on Thursdays his day off. I know there are dads that raise kids on their own, and stay at home dads, and my hat goes off to them. Keep up the good work. |
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09-01-2008, 12:58 AM
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| I better clear this up before my wife sees it. I like to say we share in the duties but she probably ends up doing more, especially on fall Saturdays
FWIW, we each help each other out when one of us is out of country. |
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09-01-2008, 01:00 AM
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| Good for both of you then, I will be anxious to see the Rep convention. |
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09-01-2008, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MontereyVol I'll take a state senator over head of the PTA anytime. | I'll take a lifetime member of the NRA over a gun grabbing socialist anytime.
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09-01-2008, 04:48 AM
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| Again for the 1000th time, no one is faulting her for her lack of experience in politics.
It's the fact that her resume is completely devoid of anything meaningful except being governor for 20 months. She has done nothing else of note.
Being part-time Mayor of a town of 5k is hardly worth mentioning. We are talking about potentially holding the highest office in our country and she has a one line resume. What other occupation can you have where your entire qualifications consist of a position you held for 20 months can you expect to get hired?
Obama served 7 yrs as a state senator, 12 yrs as a law professor, and has been a U.S. Senator for 4 yrs and that's been compared unfavorably to 20 months as a governor of a state with a population of 600k? Obama was state senator from a city of 3 million. It is obviously political bias. It didn't matter who McCain picked, the same people in this forum would have been supportive, the truth is the only thing most of you looked at is she is a Republican. Compare her resume to Romney's.
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09-01-2008, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by oklavol Again for the 1000th time, no one is faulting her for her lack of experience in politics.
It's the fact that her resume is completely devoid of anything meaningful except being governor for 20 months. She has done nothing else of note.
Being part-time Mayor of a town of 5k is hardly worth mentioning. We are talking about potentially holding the highest office in our country and she has a one line resume. What other occupation can you have where your entire qualifications consist of a position you held for 20 months?
Obama served 7 yrs as a state senator, 12 yrs as a law professor, and has been a U.S. Senator for 4 yrs and that's been compared unfavorably to 20 months as a governor of a state with a population of 600k? Obama was state senator from a city of 3 million. Their is obviously political bias. It didn't matter who McCain picked. | why do you persist in comparing Palin with Obama? Obama's resume is impressive, but none of it would make him qualified to be the CEO of Ford Motor Company.
Palin at least has experience as a chief executive, whether it's of a small town or of a sparsely populated state.
Her other accomplishments include being a mother of 5, small business owner, athlete, and civil aviator.
All this handwringing you Obama supporters are engaging is clear evidence that Palin worries you. Obama's choice of that smarmy idiot, Biden over HRC is bothering you and so rather than lash out at your personal Jesus, you settle on the most convenient target.
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09-01-2008, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MG1968 why do you persist in comparing Palin with Obama? Obama's resume is impressive, but none of it would make him qualified to be the CEO of Ford Motor Company.
Palin at least has experience as a chief executive, whether it's of a small town or of a sparsely populated state.
Her other accomplishments include being a mother of 5, small business owner, athlete, and civil aviator.
All this handwringing you Obama supporters are engaging is clear evidence that Palin worries you. Obama's choice of that smarmy idiot, Biden over HRC is bothering you and so rather than lash out at your personal Jesus, you settle on the most convenient target. |
Would you rather we compare her to Biden? It won't be any more favorable.
People on this forum who apparently vote Republican regardless of who the candidate is, make it impossible to criticize her lack of qualifications without comparing her background to Obama.
So basicly being Mayor of Crossville, Tennesee would make someone more qualified then a State Senator? No wait, Crossville has a population of 9k.
The obvious bias is making it pointless to even discuss her. She's not been Governor for 2 years and is already under an ethics investigation and she gets selected as VP?
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09-01-2008, 06:16 AM
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DENVER— A state ethics probe that was launched just a few weeks ago is already drawing attention in the opening moments of her debut as the Republican vice presidential pick is Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
An independent investigator appointed by a panel of state legislators earlier this month is looking into whether Ms. Palin dismissed a top law enforcement official in her administration because he failed to fire a state trooper, Mike Wooten, who went through a messy divorce with Ms. Palin’s sister.
The investigation follows on the heels of Ms. Palin’s abrupt decision in mid-July to dismiss Walt Monegan, her Public Safety Commissioner. Ms. Palin said she wanted to take the department in a different direction, but questions emerged after Mr. Monegan said he felt pressured to fire Mr. Wooten.
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09-01-2008, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by oklavol Would you rather we compare her to Biden? It won't be any more favorable. |
No no, keep comparing her to Obama. It says much. You attack her credentials in regards to being POTUS and try to show how Obama is so much more qualified. The problem is, no one outside of the Obamists is buying it. That is what is laughable. It is a close call on the experience level between her and Obama and he is running for PRESIDENT. What moron would criticize her lack of experience and then turn around and vote for Obama? |
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09-01-2008, 08:54 AM
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| Saw a 5 minute clip of an interview of Palin on CNBC last night. Not sure when it was done, but I liked it. She kept referring to the resources of the state as the resources of the Alaskans. Wow. Imagine that, some common sense. The oil and other resources belong to people of Alaska, not someone in DC. The only flaw I see in her so far is these union associations. But oh well, can't be perfect and that might even draw in some Ds to the McCain side. |
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09-01-2008, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by oklavol The obvious bias is making it pointless to even discuss her. | I'll concede that she lacks a significant resume, but denigrating her inexperience and then comparing it to the guy on the top of the other ticket just makes no sense to me.
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09-01-2008, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by oklavol . It is obviously political bias. It didn't matter who McCain picked, the same people in this forum would have been supportive, the truth is the only thing most of you looked at is she is a Republican. | That's a nice generalization for you to make in your head, but I would bet that for most of us that's not true. A pick of a lefty Republican or Joe Lieberman would have made me think twice about my support. |
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09-01-2008, 09:35 AM
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| I hear a lot about political experience. Well truth be told, that just boils down to same old BS we've already got. Maybe it's time for fresh faces, new ideas. Maybe it's time for old-school values instead of politically correct nonsense. We bash Obama for lack of experience and it's a valid argument. This guy is up for election to lead the USA. Personally I think he's somebody's puppet but that's a different matter. Point is, Palin's lack of experience at this point doesn't matter. She would be the VP. Yeah I know, McCain is old, he could kick at any minute. Ever think that since Obama is black he might be a target of some dumb redneck just for that reason? Odds are against either of them finishing a term as POTUS. So then it goes to Biden vs Palin. Throw out the experience factor here for a minute and listen to their ideas. Pay attention to what each has done, not for how long. Biden is simply a tax and spend liberal, Palin is old school conservative. I personally think we NEED some old school values in the USA. Bring back doing what is best for the most people instead of doing what doesn't offend somebody. As for the baby being hers or how and where she chose to deliver it, seems like you liberals should be supportive of the woman's right to choose.
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