And the search for dirt on Sarah Palin begins

[615 Vol]

Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire

Bill knocked up his own daughter?????

Yes.

[OrangeEmpire]

Chelsea is actually the daughter of Paula Jones?????

[volinbham]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

Guy last night asked this question of a Republican Congresswoman and a Republican pollster:

"If Chelsea Clinton had gotten pregnant as a teenager while Bill was in the WH, how would the Republicans have reacted to that?"

Their silence was deafening.

How do you think they would have reacted? It is a complete hypothetical that you can fill in the blank to which ever way your biases lie. Truth is, we don't know.

A more relevant question - how would the press react? Would they question Bill and Hillary's fitness as parents?

How did they react to Al Gore's son's DUI? Did they accuse Al of being an unfit parent?

I certainly think this is being taken further than it should be and the press is eager to go down that path.

I don't recall the press suggesting Edwards shouldn't run for POTUS when it was learned about his wife's cancer. Should they have questioned his commitment to family? His selfish choice to take a job that would distract him from caring for his wife?

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

Guy last night asked this question of a Republican Congresswoman and a Republican pollster:

"If Chelsea Clinton had gotten pregnant as a teenager while Bill was in the WH, how would the Republicans have reacted to that?"

Their silence was deafening.

Probably because she was a very homely teenager and everyone would have been surprised someone would sleep with her!

But no, seriously, what would repubs have done?
Probably the same thing everyone else in the country would have done......... Condemn Bill for knockin her up..... we all know he was the only one gettin any in the white house!

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire

Bill knocked up his own daughter?????

Damn you beat me to it

[JZVOL]

Bottom line Sarah Palin is hot!

[MG1968]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

Guy last night asked this question of a Republican Congresswoman and a Republican pollster:

"If Chelsea Clinton had gotten pregnant as a teenager while Bill was in the WH, how would the Republicans have reacted to that?"

Their silence was deafening.

for a lawyer, you suck at making your case.

[lawgator1]

You guys keep changing the issue.

The issue is not whether the daughter's pregnancy reflects poorly on Palin as a parent. First, it doesn't. Second, if it did it wouldn't mnatter anyway.

The issue is not whether she can lead the country with a teenage daughter who has a child. she can. Its irrelevant.

The issue is that she was chosen as the VP nominee when either she did not tell the McCain people about it and just hoped it wouldn't come out or that she did tell them and McCain picked her anyway when they had to know it would come out and become the distraction it has become.

If you listen closely, you will find that the only people who are talking about the pregnancy itself as an issue are the Republicans trying to make it sound like that is the criticism from the left (more Hannity straw man tactics).

I have yet to hear a Democrat say that the pregnancy relfects poorly on Palin. What I do hear them saying is that this is good evidence of a disastrously pathetic vetting process. Add this to the whole passport issue, the fact that she is/was a member of a political movement that touts secession of the state from the union, the investigation into her alleged use of the office to retaliate against someone over a family matter, and the issue has become how in the heck she got picked!

I heard last night that McCain had never met her and talked to her just three times on the phone before selecting her. Is that true? Is that not just flat out strange to you?

[volinbham]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

You guys keep changing the issue.

The issue is not whether the daughter's pregnancy reflects poorly on Palin as a parent. First, it doesn't. Second, if it did it wouldn't mnatter anyway.

The issue is not whether she can lead the country with a teenage daughter who has a child. she can. Its irrelevant.

The issue is that she was chosen as the VP nominee when either she did not tell the McCain people about it and just hoped it wouldn't come out or that she did tell them and McCain picked her anyway when they had to know it would come out and become the distraction it has become.

If you listen closely, you will find that the only people who are talking about the pregnancy itself as an issue are the Republicans trying to make it sound like that is the criticism from the left (more Hannity straw man tactics).

I have yet to hear a Democrat say that the pregnancy relfects poorly on Palin. What I do hear them saying is that this is good evidence of a disastrously pathetic vetting process. Add this to the whole passport issue, the fact that she is/was a member of a political movement that touts secession of the state from the union, the investigation into her alleged use of the office to retaliate against someone over a family matter, and the issue has become how in the heck she got picked!

I heard last night that McCain had never met her and talked to her just three times on the phone before selecting her. Is that true? Is that not just flat out strange to you?

You haven't been paying attention because I've heard several Dem commentators make exactly points 1 and 2.

As for point 3, you believe that McCain didn't know. It is pure speculation on your part. Given you frequently list his "anger" as an issue you have with him don't you think he'd have blown his stack if he wasn't told this?

I'm guessing they knew, knew it would come out and felt it wasn't a disqualifier.

Dem commentators are already going down the road on how this reflects on Palin as a mother and the how can she be a mother and be VP road. I've seen it on CNN, I've seen it on Fox, I've seen it on ABC. It is all over the liberal blogosphere.

[T-TownVol]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

You guys keep changing the issue.

The issue is not whether the daughter's pregnancy reflects poorly on Palin as a parent. First, it doesn't. Second, if it did it wouldn't mnatter anyway.

The issue is not whether she can lead the country with a teenage daughter who has a child. she can. Its irrelevant.

The issue is that she was chosen as the VP nominee when either she did not tell the McCain people about it and just hoped it wouldn't come out or that she did tell them and McCain picked her anyway when they had to know it would come out and become the distraction it has become.

If you listen closely, you will find that the only people who are talking about the pregnancy itself as an issue are the Republicans trying to make it sound like that is the criticism from the left (more Hannity straw man tactics).

I have yet to hear a Democrat say that the pregnancy relfects poorly on Palin. What I do hear them saying is that this is good evidence of a disastrously pathetic vetting process. Add this to the whole passport issue, the fact that she is/was a member of a political movement that touts secession of the state from the union, the investigation into her alleged use of the office to retaliate against someone over a family matter, and the issue has become how in the heck she got picked!

I heard last night that McCain had never met her and talked to her just three times on the phone before selecting her. Is that true? Is that not just flat out strange to you?

No, the issue is that you continue to be a puppet to the liberal media that continues to say that she was not vetted. She was, period. So your whole agruement is wrong.
Say that you think she is not qualified, but do not continue to say that JM did not vet her. Continuing to repeat it does not make it true.

[volinbham]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

Guy last night asked this question of a Republican Congresswoman and a Republican pollster:

"If Chelsea Clinton had gotten pregnant as a teenager while Bill was in the WH, how would the Republicans have reacted to that?"

Their silence was deafening.

This very question shows where the Dems are going. Vetting is irrelevant in this case since Bill was already POTUS. This is a case of a Dem whose attacking Palin over her daughter's pregnancy defending those attacks by saying the other side would do the same thing.

It is not about vetting, it is about attacking Palin's credibility. Odd how Kerry was on the Sunday talk shows complaining about "fear and smear". This is another example of how Dems use the same tactics.

[MG1968]

again, your arguments are weak. This isn't something created by the right. John McCain knew about Bristol. What wasn't foreseen was Kos's idiocy regarding Trig actually being Bristol's, or Alan Colmes speculating that Sarah caused Trig's Down's Syndrome by not immediately going to a hospital when her water broke. I'm sure McCain-Palin would have preferred to release the news of Bristol's pregnancy at a more opportune time, but they both probably felt that after the attacks by the Kossacks, the Democrat Underground, Alan Colmes, etc. they had no choice but to nip the speculation in the bud before it became a full blown Alex Jones' conspiracy.

The attacks on Palin began immediately after her announcement as nominee.

[OrangeEmpire]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

You guys keep changing the issue.

The issue is not whether the daughter's pregnancy reflects poorly on Palin as a parent. First, it doesn't. Second, if it did it wouldn't mnatter anyway.

The issue is not whether she can lead the country with a teenage daughter who has a child. she can. Its irrelevant.

The issue is that she was chosen as the VP nominee when either she did not tell the McCain people about it and just hoped it wouldn't come out or that she did tell them and McCain picked her anyway when they had to know it would come out and become the distraction it has become.

If you listen closely, you will find that the only people who are talking about the pregnancy itself as an issue are the Republicans trying to make it sound like that is the criticism from the left (more Hannity straw man tactics).

I have yet to hear a Democrat say that the pregnancy relfects poorly on Palin. What I do hear them saying is that this is good evidence of a disastrously pathetic vetting process. Add this to the whole passport issue, the fact that she is/was a member of a political movement that touts secession of the state from the union, the investigation into her alleged use of the office to retaliate against someone over a family matter, and the issue has become how in the heck she got picked!

I heard last night that McCain had never met her and talked to her just three times on the phone before selecting her. Is that true? Is that not just flat out strange to you?

1.) It was one of the first things brought up, McCain stated it was not an issue.

2.) Must not get out much...... it is every where!

3.) What you heard is not true.... go figure.....

[lawgator1]

Originally Posted by volinbham

You haven't been paying attention because I've heard several Dem commentators make exactly points 1 and 2.

As for point 3, you believe that McCain didn't know. It is pure speculation on your part. Given you frequently list his "anger" as an issue you have with him don't you think he'd have blown his stack if he wasn't told this?

I'm guessing they knew, knew it would come out and felt it wasn't a disqualifier.

Dem commentators are already going down the road on how this reflects on Palin as a mother and the how can she be a mother and be VP road. I've seen it on CNN, I've seen it on Fox, I've seen it on ABC. It is all over the liberal blogosphere.

I am positive McCain is apoplectic right now. Probably had to sedate him. Someone (or ones) are surely going to lose their positions in the campaign for this.

Can you cite these "several" Dems you are talking about and what they are saying? I find that discouraging. You say they are claiming that the pregnancy is a reflection on her and not the vetting process so can you maybe throw me a link or something?

[OrangeEmpire]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

I am positive McCain is apoplectic right now. Probably had to sedate him. Someone (or ones) are surely going to lose their positions in the campaign for this.

Can you cite these "several" Dems you are talking about and what they are saying? I find that discouraging. You say they are claiming that the pregnancy is a reflection on her and not the vetting process so can you maybe throw me a link or something?

How many do you want??????

Will it change your mind?