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09-01-2008, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by T-TownVol LG, you talk about hating Hannity...but you are getting your talking points from Combes
Like Carl Rove said to Alan just now, "that's weak". |
I think its with a "K," isn't it?
At any rate, the issue is not the daughter being pregnant. The issue is her being chosen as VP 1) with no foreign policy experience at all; and 2) with a pretty big booger on the end of her nose and no one noticing.
As to foreign policy, McCain will be 72. He has had some health issues. He is running on a campaign of being the most prepared to be commander in chief in a difficult and dangerous world.
I think the first thing a commander does is make sure that someone worthy is in the wings in case he cannot perform. Palin instills ZERO confidence that she could run the country in a serious foreign crisis or in war. My sofa has as much foreign policy credibility as Palin does since it was made in Taiwan.
She it utterly unqualified to be President and that's what she is there for. Just in case. What a debacle it would be if she became president facing a nuclear Iran or some sort of Russian action. Disastrous.
As for the other issue, as I say I could not care less directly. But it does suggest to me that the decision to choose her was not thought through very well. That's my gripe.
I am sort of suprirsed that all of you folks against Obama because of fear that he would be a wet noodle in times of trouble aren't as troubled by Palin as a potential POTUS. Based on what I've seen of her and know of her experience with international affairs, she's just an horrific pick.
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09-01-2008, 09:44 PM
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#152 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 The issue is her being chosen as VP 1) with no foreign policy experience at all | I have my reservations about her foreign policy myself. Mainly, how much respect will she get being a female dealing with countries that view women as less than dogs. Quote:
Originally Posted by lawgator1 I am sort of suprirsed that all of you folks against Obama because of fear that he would be a wet noodle in times of trouble aren't as troubled by Palin as a potential POTUS. Based on what I've seen of her and know of her experience with international affairs, she's just an horrific pick. | I think Obama is somebody's puppet plain and simple. As for Palin being POTUS if McCain kicks, she's got the moral convictions to keep her head in a crisis. I think, and I have nothing on which to base this except my gut, that she would be tougher on a foreign adversary than Obama would be. And I bet she would be smarter about it as well.
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09-01-2008, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 I think its with a "K," isn't it?
At any rate, the issue is not the daughter being pregnant. The issue is her being chosen as VP 1) with no foreign policy experience at all; and 2) with a pretty big booger on the end of her nose and no one noticing.
As to foreign policy, McCain will be 72. He has had some health issues. He is running on a campaign of being the most prepared to be commander in chief in a difficult and dangerous world.
I think the first thing a commander does is make sure that someone worthy is in the wings in case he cannot perform. Palin instills ZERO confidence that she could run the country in a serious foreign crisis or in war. My sofa has as much foreign policy credibility as Palin does since it was made in Taiwan.
She it utterly unqualified to be President and that's what she is there for. Just in case. What a debacle it would be if she became president facing a nuclear Iran or some sort of Russian action. Disastrous.
As for the other issue, as I say I could not care less directly. But it does suggest to me that the decision to choose her was not thought through very well. That's my gripe.
I am sort of suprirsed that all of you folks against Obama because of fear that he would be a wet noodle in times of trouble aren't as troubled by Palin as a potential POTUS. Based on what I've seen of her and know of her experience with international affairs, she's just an horrific pick. | I understand the issue about foreign policy experience. It is a serious deficit for her. I would be highly concerned if she were the top of the ticket. As it stands, I think chances are slim she would be called to duty. She is a high risk choice for McCain.
Can you at least admit she has more relevant executive experience than exists at the TOP of the Dem ticket? Does the lack of experience both in foreign policy and especially executive level raise any concerns with you for Obama?
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09-02-2008, 02:00 AM
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| I heard Sarah Palin was calling plays for UT tonight. |
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09-02-2008, 03:12 AM
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| I don't remember this "lack of foreign policy" bilge when John Edwards was Kerry's VP. His resume is even lighter than Obama's yet he was taken very seriously up until the point he decided to be unfaithful to his sick wife.
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09-02-2008, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MG1968 I don't remember this "lack of foreign policy" bilge when John Edwards was Kerry's VP. His resume is even lighter than Obama's yet he was taken very seriously up until the point he decided to be unfaithful to his sick wife. | Interesting point. He was a 1 term (less than 1 term) Senator. Did he have any state legislative experience?
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09-02-2008, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by volinbham I understand the issue about foreign policy experience. It is a serious deficit for her. I would be highly concerned if she were the top of the ticket. As it stands, I think chances are slim she would be called to duty. She is a high risk choice for McCain. Can you at least admit she has more relevant executive experience than exists at the TOP of the Dem ticket? Does the lack of experience both in foreign policy and especially executive level raise any concerns with you for Obama? |
Interesting questions.
With regard to executive experience, I would say so-so. I heard a Repub advisor proudly say last night she runs 18 departments with a $6 billiob budget. That's actually very tiny by state standards, but then again Alaska isn't super-populated. There is this issue of an investigation into how she's been doing on that, too. But in raw terms, yesd it would appear she has been in an executive post much more so than Obama.
With rgeard to the second question, I've said many times that I worry about Obama's foreign policy experience and credentials. I think it is clearly his weakness and it is one of the reasons I might not vote for him, in the end.
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09-02-2008, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 I think its with a "K," isn't it?
At any rate, the issue is not the daughter being pregnant. The issue is her being chosen as VP 1) with no foreign policy experience at all; and 2) with a pretty big booger on the end of her nose and no one noticing.
As to foreign policy, McCain will be 72. He has had some health issues. He is running on a campaign of being the most prepared to be commander in chief in a difficult and dangerous world.
I think the first thing a commander does is make sure that someone worthy is in the wings in case he cannot perform. Palin instills ZERO confidence that she could run the country in a serious foreign crisis or in war. My sofa has as much foreign policy credibility as Palin does since it was made in Taiwan.
She it utterly unqualified to be President and that's what she is there for. Just in case. What a debacle it would be if she became president facing a nuclear Iran or some sort of Russian action. Disastrous.
As for the other issue, as I say I could not care less directly. But it does suggest to me that the decision to choose her was not thought through very well. That's my gripe.
I am sort of suprirsed that all of you folks against Obama because of fear that he would be a wet noodle in times of trouble aren't as troubled by Palin as a potential POTUS. Based on what I've seen of her and know of her experience with international affairs, she's just an horrific pick. | what's obama;s foreign policy experience? |
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09-02-2008, 11:43 AM
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| More high-minded critique from the left blogosphere: Levi Johnston: Bristol Palin's Baby Daddy Revealed (PHOTOS)
I disagree with Palin on some of her social conservative stances but trashing her as a mother, ripping her daughter and her baby daddy is really crossing the line.
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09-02-2008, 11:47 AM
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| Why does it surprise you? This is coming from the same people who believe that the 4 year old who is raped is at fault because she enticed the adult to have sex with her/him!
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09-02-2008, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by droski what's obama's foreign policy experience? | That is exactly the brilliance of this pick, her inexperience only magnifies Obama's |
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09-02-2008, 01:14 PM
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#162 (permalink)
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| remember how the New York Times refused to cover the John Edwards/Rielle Hunter story? Well, today's edition has three front page articles about Bristol Palin.
here's Clark Hoyt on the NYT's coverage of things: Quote:
It is ... the kind of story that The Times seems instinctively to recoil from, just as it ignored such stories in its own backyard as A-Rod and Madonna and Christie Brinkley’s ugly divorce, and played down the “love child” scandal involving New York City’s only Republican congressman, Vito Fossella, earlier this year. ...
Edwards-Hunter was “classically not a Times-like story,” said Craig Whitney, the standards editor.
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09-02-2008, 03:09 PM
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| Guy last night asked this question of a Republican Congresswoman and a Republican pollster:
"If Chelsea Clinton had gotten pregnant as a teenager while Bill was in the WH, how would the Republicans have reacted to that?"
Their silence was deafening.
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09-02-2008, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 Guy last night asked this question of a Republican Congresswoman and a Republican pollster:
"If Chelsea Clinton had gotten pregnant as a teenager while Bill was in the WH, how would the Republicans have reacted to that?"
Their silence was deafening. | Bill knocked up his own daughter????? 
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09-02-2008, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 Guy last night asked this question of a Republican Congresswoman and a Republican pollster:
"If Chelsea Clinton had gotten pregnant as a teenager while Bill was in the WH, how would the Republicans have reacted to that?"
Their silence was deafening. | Because that is an irrelevant question. It did not happen, so why answer it. |
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