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08-28-2008, 06:43 AM
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| I tell you what guys.....I ain't the brightest bulb around the Volnation, but I have a feeling that Obama just might do himself in with this stunt. I want to go on record that the general public will not just shrug this off. It is going to backfire in a big way. It seems analogous to the guy with the small peter that drives the sports car.
Now a less general and more practical criticism: as much as they are hammering the economy, the spectacle seems to present a message of prosperity.
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08-28-2008, 11:11 AM
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| This is another fake controversy, just like McCain's houses. The media and now increasingly both campaigns are using this trivialities to distract voters from the real issues. Do you really care if Obama is speaking on a set-piece featuring greek columns? He's running for President of the United States of America, and he's speaking to 60,000 people. God forbid, they try to make the place look somewhat presentable. Like I said before: unless John McCain speaks from the back of a pickup truck next week, we have no business criticizing Obama tonight. |
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08-28-2008, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by notverycrucial This is another fake controversy, just like McCain's houses. The media and now increasingly both campaigns are using this trivialities to distract voters from the real issues. Do you really care if Obama is speaking on a set-piece featuring greek columns? He's running for President of the United States of America, and he's speaking to 60,000 people. God forbid, they try to make the place look somewhat presentable. Like I said before: unless John McCain speaks from the back of a pickup truck next week, we have no business criticizing Obama tonight. | I'm simply looking at it from a brand message perspective. It is trivial and it isn't. I'm not criticizing Obama for it - I'm criticizing the campaign for not being smarter about how this could feed into an image he is trying to shed.
Obama will live and die more by symbolism than McCain will since Obama is more of an unknown.
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08-28-2008, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by notverycrucial This is another fake controversy, just like McCain's houses. The media and now increasingly both campaigns are using this trivialities to distract voters from the real issues. Do you really care if Obama is speaking on a set-piece featuring greek columns? He's running for President of the United States of America, and he's speaking to 60,000 people. God forbid, they try to make the place look somewhat presentable. Like I said before: unless John McCain speaks from the back of a pickup truck next week, we have no business criticizing Obama tonight. | It is not a controversy.
The idea that Obama felt the need to have the production staged in a football stadium will be much harder to overlook than you realize.
I think people are looking for substance over style at this point in the game. Even if Obama says something substantive, the spectacle is going to outwiegh it. I don't think this is going to help his cause at all. |
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08-28-2008, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by volinbham I'm simply looking at it from a brand message perspective. It is trivial and it isn't. I'm not criticizing Obama for it - I'm criticizing the campaign for not being smarter about how this could feed into an image he is trying to shed. Obama will live and die more by symbolism than McCain will since Obama is more of an unknown. | I definitely agree with you on this. |
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08-28-2008, 01:13 PM
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| I had Quinn and Rose on yesterday briefly, and they were speaking about this. It was on an elevated platform, right. I dont understand, and wish I knew more about politics. |
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08-28-2008, 03:23 PM
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| more images of the Barackopolis: Barack's Mt. O-lympus Stage - The New York Post
btw, the set was designed by RDA Entertainment, the same company that produced the stage sets for Britney Spears' last tour.
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08-28-2008, 03:55 PM
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| I heard they were trying to make it look similar to the backdrop of JFK's 1960 convention speech at the LA Coliseum. |
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08-28-2008, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by notverycrucial I heard they were trying to make it look similar to the backdrop of JFK's 1960 convention speech at the LA Coliseum. | Which is undoubtably true, but Obama is no where near the level of JFK.
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08-28-2008, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire Which is undoubtably true, but Obama is no where near the level of JFK. | OE is channeling Lloyd Bentsen
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08-28-2008, 04:17 PM
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08-28-2008, 09:52 PM
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| C'mon already, bring out the Messiah Obama. |
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08-28-2008, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by myrobbins7 C'mon already, bring out the Messiah Obama. | kinda fitting since this is the 3rd day of the convention. Coincidence?
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08-28-2008, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by utvolpj kinda fitting since this is the 3rd day of the convention. Coincidence? | Good point..  |
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