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08-18-2008, 03:28 PM
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| | The White Debonair | Defense Official: Russia Has Short Range Missiles in South Ossetia FOXNews.com - Defense Official: Russia Has Short Range Missiles in South Ossetia - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News Quote: Russia has placed short range SS-21 missiles in South Ossetia, that could pose a threat to most major Georgian cities," including the capital, Tbilisi, a U.S.Defense official confirmed to FOX News on Monday.
"Anything such as that, or any other military equipment that was moved in would be in violation of this cease-fire and should be removed immediately," Pentagon Spokesman Bryan Whitman said. "The only forces that are permitted to remain under the cease fire agreement are the forces that were in there at the Aug. 6 time frame."
This news came as Russia's deputy chief of staff insists that Russian troops were pulling out of the breakaway region. However, there have been no confirmed signs of a withdrawal.
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08-18-2008, 03:30 PM
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| | Technical Difficulties | I think Bush in general gets over criticized, but believe he and his dufus Secretary of State are really bungling this one.
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08-18-2008, 05:05 PM
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| | 5* Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Clarksville, TN
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| I think there is more than enough blame to go around for everyone in the West to have some.
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08-18-2008, 05:11 PM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya | Quote:
Originally Posted by allvol123 I think Bush in general gets over criticized, but believe he and his dufus Secretary of State are really bungling this one. | why is she a dufus? |
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08-18-2008, 05:19 PM
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| | Technical Difficulties | Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPapaVol why is she a dufus? | Sorry, I can't supply anything concrete here. I just see her and think "weakness". I feel like she is some second grade school teacher when she tries to deliver some speech telling some country they better shape up or else. Just a personal thing. |
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08-18-2008, 05:20 PM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya | I actually like her, even though she works for a dufus. |
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08-18-2008, 05:25 PM
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| | Technical Difficulties | Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPapaVol I actually like her, even though she works for a dufus. | So you think he is a dufus and he holds her in high regard. Doesn't that come around full circle? |
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08-18-2008, 05:26 PM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya | Quote:
Originally Posted by allvol123 So you think he is a dufus and he holds her in high regard. Doesn't that come around full circle? | Not really. He's actually a decent judge of character(s). He put together a very strong circle of advisers, he just lost it when he decided that he knew more than they did. |
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08-18-2008, 05:30 PM
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| | Technical Difficulties | Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPapaVol Not really. He's actually a decent judge of character(s). He put together a very strong circle of advisers, he just lost it when he decided that he knew more than they did. | I thought she and him were rather close. Anyway, my opinion is they are looking rather timid in this whole deal. The "you better do this or else" speeches make you look silly after a while. |
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08-18-2008, 05:32 PM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya | Quote:
Originally Posted by allvol123 I thought she and him were rather close. Anyway, my opinion is they are looking rather timid in this whole deal. The "you better do this or else" speeches make you look silly after a while. | seriously, what are their options? Are we really going to do something of any value over South Ossetia? |
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08-18-2008, 05:36 PM
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| | Technical Difficulties | Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPapaVol seriously, what are their options? Are we really going to do something of any value over South Ossetia? | So your opinion is to let Russia reclaim former territories? I doubt it is. I am fully aware of my own impatience with this matter and understand this situation is complex and not something you handle with a happy trigger finger. I'll not say I have a plan but don't like what I see so far. |
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08-18-2008, 05:41 PM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya | Quote:
Originally Posted by allvol123 So your opinion is to let Russia reclaim former territories? I doubt it is. I am fully aware of my own impatience with this matter and understand this situation is complex and not something you handle with a happy trigger finger. I'll not say I have a plan but don't like what I see so far. | I just don't know what we'd do in a situation like this when the populace of Ossetia clearly wants to be rid of the Georgians. It's simply intervening in a civil war where we have no business poking our noses.
Posturing and maybe some sanctions is what we have.
We honestly roll into Cuba and tell them it's over, the Russians ain't gonna come play. They'll posture and have media field days, but they aren't seriously going to consider a low intensity conflict at our back door. |
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08-18-2008, 05:45 PM
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| | Technical Difficulties | Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPapaVol I just don't know what we'd do in a situation like this when the populace of Ossetia clearly wants to be rid of the Georgians. It's simply intervening in a civil war where we have no business poking our noses.
Posturing and maybe some sanctions is what we have.
We honestly roll into Cuba and tell them it's over, the Russians ain't gonna come play. They'll posture and have media field days, but they aren't seriously going to consider a low intensity conflict at our back door. | Intervening is an interesting term. Not sure you have to occupy some of the Georgian territory that Russia seems to be occupying to intervene for Ossetia. Again, I'd bet your opinion is that Russia is up to more than just defending the poor Ossetians. |
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08-18-2008, 05:47 PM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya | Quote:
Originally Posted by allvol123 Intervening is an interesting term. Not sure you have to occupy some of the Georgian territory that Russia seems to be occupying to intervene for Ossetia. Again, I'd bet your opinion is that Russia is up to more than just defending the poor Ossetians. | Clearly they have strategic goals in mind, but so do we in every international situation we encounter. |
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08-18-2008, 05:48 PM
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| | Technical Difficulties | Yes we do. Choices are there to be made. I don't particularly like hanging my friends out to dry. Oh well, gotta head out. Not bailing just got to go. I rather like hearing thoughts on situations like this. Talk again later. |
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