A Day in the Life of Joe Republican

[VolDad]

Originally Posted by MG1968

yeah, liberals are useful for a few things. mostly a few good laughs, but they occasionally come up with a good idea, unfortunately, I'm at a loss to come up with the last liberal good idea.

nvm

[volinbham]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

The "Day in the Life" thing was sent to me by a friend in an email. I have no idea who authored it.

I did post it to get people talking. I personally think its a bit over the top. But its interesting and there is a least a grain of truth to parts of it, I think people would admit.

Aren't you the one that is always freaking out about misquoting, one-sided presentations of information (I believe you attribute them all to Hannity).

Good to see you stick objective analyses...

[KentheOrange]

Originally Posted by TennNC

welcome.

i got the information first-hand from talking to migrant tobacco workers at their campo 30 miles from where I live. I happened to be out there on a Sunday afternoon at 5 pm, and it was 110 degrees between the rows.

do you know what you're talking about?

Well, I know I can't find any evidence of the temp in that area being over 100 this year, but the daily records I found only go through 8/5/08. I take it that you were told it was 110 degrees by a migrant worker and you just accepted it as fact. Is that a habit? Just asking. I get curious when pieces don't seem to fit.

BTW, it appears the highest temp recorded in your area was 105 in 1988 and again last year.

[notverycrucial]

Originally Posted by KentheOrange

Well, I know I can't find any evidence of the temp in that area being over 100 this year, but the daily records I found only go through 8/5/08. I take it that you were told it was 110 degrees by a migrant worker and you just accepted it as fact. Is that a habit? Just asking. I get curious when pieces don't seem to fit.

BTW, it appears the highest temp recorded in your area was 105 in 1988 and again last year.

Dude, the official temperature records are not taken in the middle of a tobacco field. In fact, they are controlled readings taken in the shade!! Last time I checked, there ain't much shade in the middle of a tobacco field. It's the same way on the football field (ever notice they show the temp gauge on the field before the game starts -- it's often over 100 degrees).

btw, it appears the high temp in my attic yesterday was 120 degrees, but the national weather service says it was only 85 here. how can that be?

[VolByBirth]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

Day in the life of a liberal...

2:47 p.m.: Wake up
2:58 p.m.: Check mailbox for gov't check
3:30 p.m.: Roll up joint and eat a bag of Fritos
4:00 p.m.: Go to sleep
8:09 p.m.: Wake up (again)
9:14 p.m.: Roll up joint (again) and head to the neighborhood bar
9:28 p.m.: Bum a cigarette from one of the regulars and promise to pay him back later
9:33 p.m.: Borrow $10 from another regular and buy a pitcher of Bud Light
12:37 a.m.: Roll a joint (again)
2:13 a.m.: Escorted out of the bar after last call
2:48 a.m.: Start a rukus at the Waffle House after refusing to pay for large coffee and an order of scattered/smothered.
3:13 a.m.: Go over friends' house to burn a few joints
5:35 a.m.: Leave friends' house, making sure to steal a few dollors from their night stand on the way out.
6:13 a.m.: Go to gas station and get Little Debbies, coffee, and pork skins as you manuever your way around the Republicans that are heading to work
7:06 a.m.: Go to bed

Hmm...I didn't realize over half our population was unemployed and high.

[lawgator1]

Originally Posted by volinbham

Aren't you the one that is always freaking out about misquoting, one-sided presentations of information (I believe you attribute them all to Hannity).

Good to see you stick objective analyses...

I'm not sure I see how one has anything to do with the other. I do think that the right tends to employ the straw man form of argument a lot. Talk radio hosts are particularly good/guilty of really bastardizing what Democrats have said, then attacking the host's version, rather than what was actually said.

The Joe Republican thing is just made up. Its not taking someone's statement and mocking a revised version of it.

The two just aren't in the same category.

[MG1968]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

I'm not sure I see how one has anything to do with the other. I do think that the right tends to employ the straw man form of argument a lot. Talk radio hosts are particularly good/guilty of really bastardizing what Democrats have said, then attacking the host's version, rather than what was actually said.

The Joe Republican thing is just made up. Its not taking someone's statement and mocking a revised version of it.

The two just aren't in the same category.

unbelievable. You've conveniently forgotten all the times the left has used strawman arguments and hyperbole?

how about starving kids and seniors if the GOP gets it's tax cuts?

or how the GOP was coming after grandma's social security check because they want to paritally privatize the system.

or McCain wanting to stay and fight in Iraq for 100 years.

W's refusal to sign hate crimes legislation in Texas was like killing James Byrd all over again.

electing republicans will cause more black churches to burn.

and those are just a few examples of the left's distortion machine in action.

[chavisut]

Where did the Joe Democrat thread go?

[onlyut4me]

Originally Posted by 615 Vol

Just curious.....if not one union existed in the United States what would things be like? Assuming a union employee at Nissan in Smyrna is making $20.00 an hour, what would they make as a non-union employee? I'm not asking in support for union rather looking for thoughts on this issue for further understanding.

correct me if i am wrong but i do not believe there are any union employees at nissan. i believe the average wage at nissan is around 20 an hour. i also believe it to be true that when nissan opened its plant in smyrna they assured the local gov't they would never lay anyone off. i believe they have lived up to their word. no lay offs but 100 grand buyouts.

[Headed For Home]

Originally Posted by TennNC

if every union were just like this, we'd be in violent agreement. but you and i know it's not that way.

yes, that is exactly the role they play. and the reason is b/c migrant workers can't just whip out their blackberry, search for a reputable local attorney and call them up as they're being carried into the trailer from heat exhaustion. it would help if they had a telephone. and internet access. and transportation. and could speak english. but since they're only going to be here for 6 months, that stuff isn't feasible. so a few bucks going to a union who keeps the employer honest seems like a good investment.

Are you really trying to justify unions through the "plight" of the migrant worker? The same workers who are here illegally? If they don't like the working conditions, they could go home where they can live legally.

[tim]

Originally Posted by joevol320

the problem i see with unions is that if you bust your tail working hard, you'll get the same raise as the guy thats always late and always slacking on the job.

my dad worked as a painter and he said he would be working and would come upon guys that would hide behind equipment and sleep. he said he saw it all the time. he said they rarely got in trouble and they never got fired. he said so much money was wasted because there was very litter accountability or the oversight was so ineffecient people got away with everthing.

with a private company, if you bust your tail and work hard, you have a much better chance of suceeding.

My dad worked at AVCO Aerostructures in Nashville and said the same thing. He would bust his tail and others would get to take naps without any recourse. Ask a "working" union employee what he thinks about the Union and see what answer you get.

OTOH, I see the usefulness of Unions in some instances. Kinda like the police. You don't want to see them until you need them.

[615 Vol]

Originally Posted by onlyut4me

correct me if i am wrong but i do not believe there are any union employees at nissan. i believe the average wage at nissan is around 20 an hour. i also believe it to be true that when nissan opened its plant in smyrna they assured the local gov't they would never lay anyone off. i believe they have lived up to their word. no lay offs but 100 grand buyouts.

Yeah, I thought about that after I wrote it, Nissan is not union but it was all for illustration anyway. Replace Nissan in Smyrna with Corvette in Bowling Green.

[KentheOrange]

Originally Posted by notverycrucial

Dude, the official temperature records are not taken in the middle of a tobacco field. In fact, they are controlled readings taken in the shade!! Last time I checked, there ain't much shade in the middle of a tobacco field. It's the same way on the football field (ever notice they show the temp gauge on the field before the game starts -- it's often over 100 degrees).

btw, it appears the high temp in my attic yesterday was 120 degrees, but the national weather service says it was only 85 here. how can that be?

It appears you have never heard of radiant heat. Take a look at Environmental Ergonomics - the ... - Google Book Search

Radiant heat is reflected off material such as concrete. So, unless the tobacco field was located in the middle of a stadium........

The answer to your attic question is probably all the hot air generated in your house.