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08-18-2008, 10:21 AM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya Join Date: Oct 2005
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| Protesters have definitely been the backbone of America. I'm proud of them and the burden they've carried over the past 250 years.
Wonder why there are no collegiate majors pertaining to protesting? |
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08-18-2008, 10:28 AM
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| | I'm Your Huckleberry Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lexington, KY
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| Thanks unions. You have negatively affected my salary by costing my company more in health benefits, prescription plans and comp time. Thank you for helping me chose were all of my money should go! |
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08-18-2008, 10:30 AM
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| | I'm Your Huckleberry Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lexington, KY
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| ....and you have effectively driven up costs of union made materials without quality improvement. As well as driving up the overall costs of health care, airline tickets, and education....without quality improvement in either category. |
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08-18-2008, 10:45 AM
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| what worries me the most is that he's probably charged some poor schmuck his hourly service while he was writing this. oh that's something else liberals gave us. lawyers. |
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08-18-2008, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Lexvol ....and you have effectively driven up costs of union made materials without quality improvement. As well as driving up the overall costs of health care, airline tickets, and education....without quality improvement in either category. | liberals don't understand cause and effect. they only see roses and gay pixies and everyone holding hand in fields of clover and wild flower; praying to mother nature. |
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08-18-2008, 10:47 AM
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| | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Nashville
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| Just curious.....if not one union existed in the United States what would things be like? Assuming a union employee at Nissan in Smyrna is making $20.00 an hour, what would they make as a non-union employee? I'm not asking in support for union rather looking for thoughts on this issue for further understanding. |
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08-18-2008, 10:50 AM
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| | a lover, not a fighter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Durham, NC
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Originally Posted by 615 Vol Just curious.....if not one union existed in the United States what would things be like? Assuming a union employee at Nissan in Smyrna is making $20.00 an hour, what would they make as a non-union employee? I'm not asking in support for union rather looking for thoughts on this issue for further understanding. | Just a hunch: GOPers will say "higher." Dems will say "lower."
Like just about everything in life, there's a good bit of good and bad in unions IMO. |
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08-18-2008, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by joevol320 what worries me the most is that he's probably charged some poor schmuck his hourly service while he was writing this. oh that's something else liberals gave us. lawyers. | What's wrong with lawyers? You won't feel that way the first time you need one. As far as over charging for an hourly service, call an HVAC tech or plumber. |
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08-18-2008, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 615 Vol Just curious.....if not one union existed in the United States what would things be like? Assuming a union employee at Nissan in Smyrna is making $20.00 an hour, what would they make as a non-union employee? I'm not asking in support for union rather looking for thoughts on this issue for further understanding. | the idea of unions are good ( as socialism and communism is- i'm not equating the two) but competition drives wages up, competition allows a company to get better benefits for the employee. |
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08-18-2008, 10:53 AM
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| | Future end zone mod Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cookeville, TN
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Originally Posted by VolDad | I'm shocked to the depths of my soul. Imagine, LG goes to his site.
__________________ When you're a Vol fan you're already halfway to heaven. You are expected to dress louder, yell louder, spend more, suffer more, exult more and care more. You usually go everywhere the team goes. You mix and mingle with friend and foe alike. You revel in victory and die in defeat. But either way, you always come back for more. - Russ Bebb |
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08-18-2008, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 615 Vol What's wrong with lawyers? You won't feel that way the first time you need one. As far as over charging for an hourly service, call an HVAC tech or plumber. | well i haven't placed my self in any position to need a lawyer, so i'll continue to down them. well most of them. there is a small percentage of good lawyers out there.
Yes a completely agree about those professions. but you have to understand, people like plumbers, hvac repairmen are the blue collar workers. the working man that dems love. so no one should ever question their charges or work quality. |
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08-18-2008, 10:59 AM
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| | Recreational User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bad Newz, VA
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Originally Posted by 615 Vol Just curious.....if not one union existed in the United States what would things be like? Assuming a union employee at Nissan in Smyrna is making $20.00 an hour, what would they make as a non-union employee? I'm not asking in support for union rather looking for thoughts on this issue for further understanding. | they would make what the job is worth. If he's currently the union floorsweeper he would make less than the more technical jobs.
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08-18-2008, 11:00 AM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by TennNC Just a hunch: GOPers will say "higher." Dems will say "lower."
Like just about everything in life, there's a good bit of good and bad in unions IMO. | unions clearly had their place many decades ago, but the proliferation of information today and undermined all of their usefulness.
Now, their function is simply massively expensive, destroys efficiency and ultimately destroys outfits like the airlines and auto mfrs. |
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08-18-2008, 11:06 AM
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| | a lover, not a fighter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Durham, NC
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Originally Posted by volsforever27 I'm shocked to the depths of my soul. Imagine, LG goes to his site. | that post is a spit in the ocean compared to a good amount of drivel on here that's birthed listening to Rush. |
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