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08-15-2008, 10:32 AM
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| | a lover, not a fighter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Durham, NC
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| McCain missed all 8 votes on energy legislation http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/op...=1&oref=slogin
"Senator McCain did not show up for the crucial vote on July 30, and the renewable energy bill was defeated for the eighth time. In fact, John McCain has a perfect record on this renewable energy legislation. He has missed all eight votes over the last year — which effectively counts as a no vote each time. Once, he was even in the Senate and wouldn’t leave his office to vote."
Obama's not perfect, but at least he voted 3 previous times in favor of renewable energy legislation.
How serious is McCain about energy policy? |
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08-15-2008, 10:41 AM
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| oh get real. that energy plan is as laughable as obama's economic plan and sence of morals. |
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08-15-2008, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by joevol320 oh get real. that energy plan is as laughable as obama's economic plan and sence of morals. | what's sence? |
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08-15-2008, 10:44 AM
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| exactly |
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08-15-2008, 10:46 AM
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| | Football Jones Join Date: Jun 2006
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| Sorry, I'll disagree with the writers interpretation of the importance of S.3335. |
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08-15-2008, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by allvol123 Sorry, I'll disagree with the writers interpretation of the importance of S.3335. | How so?
I guess you disagree with a leading energy researcher at MIT. Maybe TennTradition knows him? |
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08-15-2008, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TennNC How so?
I guess you disagree with a leading energy researcher at MIT. Maybe TennTradition knows him? | Extending tax credits on fringe energy resources I don't view as a pressing matter. Where was everyone at on that vote for drilling? Oh yea, that is not allowed to be voted on. |
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08-15-2008, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TennNC How so?
I guess you disagree with a leading energy researcher at MIT. Maybe TennTradition knows him? | I guarantee you that I disagree with thousands of energy researchers in academia. They are the lunatics that have foisted GW mania onto us.
Being bright in research and science clearly doesn't preclude lunacy. |
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08-15-2008, 11:15 AM
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| | doo doo doo Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: looking out my backdoor
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Originally Posted by TennNC http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/op...=1&oref=slogin
"Senator McCain did not show up for the crucial vote on July 30, and the renewable energy bill was defeated for the eighth time. In fact, John McCain has a perfect record on this renewable energy legislation. He has missed all eight votes over the last year — which effectively counts as a no vote each time. Once, he was even in the Senate and wouldn’t leave his office to vote."
Obama's not perfect, but at least he voted 3 previous times in favor of renewable energy legislation.
How serious is McCain about energy policy? | McCain should have voted.
Is 3 out of 8 really being serious about energy (Obama's voting record)?
Neither looks good on this one IMHO
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08-15-2008, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by volinbham McCain should have voted.
Is 3 out of 8 really being serious about energy (Obama's voting record)?
Neither looks good on this one IMHO |
Why? Do you know the content of the bills? If they are energy bills in name only, who cares? |
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08-15-2008, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by volinbham McCain should have voted.
Is 3 out of 8 really being serious about energy (Obama's voting record)?
Neither looks good on this one IMHO | well, it might be the most important nationwide issue. certainly one of them. and though neither is good, in an election where a good lot seems to be choosing the "lesser of two evils," I'd say 3 of 8 is less evil than 0 of 8. |
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08-15-2008, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TennNC well, it might be the most important nationwide issue. certainly one of them. and though neither is good, in an election where a good lot seems to be choosing the "lesser of two evils," I'd say 3 of 8 is less evil than 0 of 8. | Still a failing grade.
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08-15-2008, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by allvol123 Why? Do you know the content of the bills? If they are energy bills in name only, who cares? | I think voting on bills is part of their job. If it's a BS bill, vote no and move on.
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08-15-2008, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TennNC well, it might be the most important nationwide issue. certainly one of them. and though neither is good, in an election where a good lot seems to be choosing the "lesser of two evils," I'd say 3 of 8 is less evil than 0 of 8. | Yea, and that NY Times is going to play up that fact. Making sure not to also point out that none of the 8 bills has anything to do with remotely "fixing" the energy crisis. |
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08-15-2008, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by allvol123 Extending tax credits on fringe energy resources I don't view as a pressing matter. | Not pressing? And extracting 7 months of usable oil off our coasts 10 years from now is pressing?
I seem to recall you calling for oil drilling as part of a comprehensive energy plan. Do you not care about the comprehensive part? Just the drilling part? |
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