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Old 08-13-2008, 03:49 PM   #121 (permalink)
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I don't think what he said made the actual conflict worse, but the implications of what he said are going to be felt.

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Don't make threats you have no intention of defending. Now he has to follow through or our threats in the future for other situations are going to be meaningless.
What more can McCain do but call for action. Perhaps his comments motivated the administration to go forward with the humanitarian aid flight.

I don't get your point - what are the threats he made that he's not following through on?
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Old 08-13-2008, 05:13 PM   #122 (permalink)
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What more can McCain do but call for action. Perhaps his comments motivated the administration to go forward with the humanitarian aid flight.

I don't get your point - what are the threats he made that he's not following through on?
Maybe I should word this different? I generally ascribe to the T.R. school of thought. McCain (Obama /US Admin) are calling an emergency meeting for NATO, thats an implied threat. You dont call up NATO to discuss economic sanctions, unless it implies military intervention. NATO would be convened only after sanctions have been discussed and they would need to be informed.

Sorry, I haven't been reading up on Obamas stance, but you guys are right that everyone is basically saying the same thing (Obama & US Admin). Russia called our bluff and we were caught in promises we could not keep.
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:18 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Thank God Obama called for a ceasefire - VP hopeful Kaine recognizes Obama's power by giving him credit for ceasefire.

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Oops! That ceasefire didn't hold. That must be a result of McCain's tough talk...
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Old 08-14-2008, 01:26 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Russia still at it, blowing up runways and continuing to do their best to secure the pipeline.
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Old 08-14-2008, 01:28 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Red Rover Red Rover send Condi right over. Yeaaaahhhh!!!!!!

Btw, I have communicated with BPV and trUT. So according to the Obama/Clooney/TennNC rule, I am qualified to instruct Georgia on warfare should they need my consultation.
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Old 08-14-2008, 03:28 PM   #127 (permalink)
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Red Rover Red Rover send Condi right over. Yeaaaahhhh!!!!!!

Btw, I have communicated with BPV and trUT. So according to the Obama/Clooney/TennNC rule, I am qualified to instruct Georgia on warfare should they need my consultation.
I assure you that I take the comparison of my comments to those of Clooney as nothing but an affront. He's a freakin' invalid.
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I assure you that I take the comparison of my comments to those of Clooney as nothing but an affront. He's a freakin' invalid.
No offense intended. Just pointing out how easy it is to be considered an advisor, given the Obama rule. Hell, given that you just directly responded to this post probably puts me on the short list for his Secretary of Defense.
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Old 08-14-2008, 03:40 PM   #129 (permalink)
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No offense intended. Just pointing out how easy it is to be considered an advisor, given the Obama rule. Hell, given that you just directly responded to this post probably puts me on the short list for his Secretary of Defense.
and I was but kidding. In the response, not about Clooney.
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Oh yes, the Clooney part was loud and clear. I'll PM you later about troop strategies.
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Old 08-14-2008, 08:24 PM   #131 (permalink)
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YouTube - Georgian journalist shot during live coverage

That is a video of a Georgia news reporter getting shot by a Russian sniper. Wow.
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:08 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Now.. Is there any doubt that the missle shield will be installed?
Good call on this issue..US and Poland to sign a missile shield deal.. (Per CNN.com) I think it's a good move on our part, but im sure Russia will be pissed off over this, but oh well.
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The US has really flubbed the energy issue for the past 30 years. Going to be a cost for that.
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evidently this is all a plot by Repubs to defeat Obama

Kremlin dusts off Cold War lexicon to make US villain in Georgia - Times Online

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Russians were told over breakfast yesterday what really happened in Georgia: the conflict in South Ossetia was part of a plot by Dick Cheney, the Vice-President, to stop Barak Obama being elected president of the United States.
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“George Bush's Administration is promoting interests of candidate John McCain,” said Dr Markov. “Defeated by Barak Obama on all fronts, McCain has one last card to play yet - the creation of a virtual Cold War with Russia . . . Bush himself did not want a war in South Ossetia but his Republican Party did not leave him any choice.” The Americans were now engineering an armed conflict between Ukraine and Russia, Dr Markov added.
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