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08-11-2008, 03:11 PM
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| | doo doo doo
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Originally Posted by TennNC  voters will make a lot of assumptions when they hear "McCain's affairs." that's what I'm trying to assess. | Your mind appears to be made up - you are trying to convince us.
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08-11-2008, 03:12 PM
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| | Repeat Offender
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| I think the big difference is McCain had his affairs many years ago. Water under the bridge.
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08-11-2008, 03:16 PM
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| Trust me: John McCain is not going to win this argument if this election turns into a referendum on adultery. He's just not. Sure, he cheated (admittedly on his first wife) many years ago, but there are a lot of rumors out there about him cheating on Cindy McCain as recently as a few years ago (see NYTimes hit piece earlier this year about Vicki Iseman).
Despite what some of you may think, the press doesn't usually make stuff up. Remember, it was the Natl Enquirer that first broke the Edwards story. Everyone said it was BS (until it wasn't). When the NYT wrote that story about McCain having an "inappropriate relationship" with Vicky Iseman, everyone said it was BS, but I wouldn't bet on it. Just like I didn't bet against the NE when they broke the Edwards affair. | |
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08-11-2008, 03:19 PM
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| | Nine times...Nine Times
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Originally Posted by notverycrucial Trust me: John McCain is not going to win this argument if this election turns into a referendum on adultery. He's just not. Sure, he cheated (admittedly on his first wife) many years ago, but there are a lot of rumors out there about him cheating on Cindy McCain as recently as a few years ago (see NYTimes hit piece earlier this year about Vicki Iseman).
Despite what some of you may think, the press doesn't usually make stuff up. Remember, it was the Natl Enquirer that first broke the Edwards story. Everyone said it was BS (until it wasn't). When the NYT wrote that story about McCain having an "inappropriate relationship" with Vicky Iseman, everyone said it was BS, but I wouldn't bet on it. Just like I didn't bet against the NE when they broke the Edwards affair. | the only person making this a referendum on adultery is TennNC. And for you to say that the press doesn't make things up is one of the funnier things I've ever read on this board.
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08-11-2008, 03:26 PM
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| | say that one more time
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Originally Posted by notverycrucial Exactly. And I warned you guys in the other thread to steer clear of this topic. TennNC knows exactly what he is doing. | TennNC has very little bearing on the presidential election, save his one vote. | |
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08-11-2008, 03:30 PM
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| | say that one more time
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Originally Posted by MG1968 the only person making this a referendum on adultery is TennNC. And for you to say that the press doesn't make things up is one of the funnier things I've ever read on this board. | I don't know that they make stuff up but they do run with stories made up by others every now and then, in fact a very highly respected person lost their job because of it. | |
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08-11-2008, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MG1968 you make it sound as though McCain was chasing every skirt in Washington. From what I can tell, his only extramarital activities happened with Cindy, and he married her. | From what you can tell? Don't you see how ridiculous that sounds? Truth is: we don't know if McCain's had any other affairs since then, and neither do any of the blathering idiots on cable news who would just love an excuse to talk endlessly about it. Like I said before, if we want to make this a referendum on candidates sex lives, then McCain will probably lose. We need to stick to the issues. The press would love to make this an election about adultery, race, drug use, whatever... Anything but the issues. TennNC is just messing with you guys. He's demonstrating how it's done. | |
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08-11-2008, 03:34 PM
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| Man, we're all glad you're here to protect us from TennNC. | |
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08-11-2008, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MG1968 the only person making this a referendum on adultery is TennNC. And for you to say that the press doesn't make things up is one of the funnier things I've ever read on this board. | Did the press make up the John Edwards story? | |
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08-11-2008, 03:36 PM
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| | Nine times...Nine Times
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Originally Posted by notverycrucial Did the press make up the John Edwards story? | no, they just didn't cover it until it became clear that Edwards was lying.
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08-11-2008, 03:40 PM
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| | Go back to the hotel, E.B
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| Affairs really seems to have hurt JFK's and Clinton's popularity... It might be easier to list the presidents that haven't cheated. | |
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08-11-2008, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MG1968 no, they just didn't cover it until it became clear that Edwards was lying. | At what point did it become clear that Edwards was lying? | |
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08-11-2008, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JZVOL Affairs really seems to have hurt JFK's and Clinton's popularity... It might be easier to list the presidents that haven't cheated. | As far as we know, Nixon never cheated. Carter never cheated. George W Bush never cheated. | |
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08-11-2008, 03:56 PM
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#29 (permalink)
| | Go back to the hotel, E.B
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Originally Posted by notverycrucial As far as we know, Nixon never cheated. Carter never cheated. George W Bush never cheated. | Yea, he just cheated millions of Americans.  | |
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08-11-2008, 03:57 PM
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#30 (permalink)
| | say that one more time
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Originally Posted by notverycrucial At what point did it become clear that Edwards was lying? | Well the story never went away entirely. I just think the major networks were reluctant to get involved with paying for the information which is the NE and the likes method of collecting information. | |
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