Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation"

volsforever27 · 08-02-2008, 03:08 AM

I watched this the other night and found it interesting. While I haven't read the book, some of the things discussed in this interview bring Obama into a whole new light, and quite franky are exactly what his (Obama's) critics have been saying for some time. I know that watching anything from Fox News may burn some of your retina's, but I think it's worthwhile. I'll reserve judgement until I read the book.

And before anyone says this is just a typical conservative hit piece, Corsi is very critical of Bush and the Iraq War... and that may be putting it mildly. I'm curious to see everyone's reactions after watching the clips.

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emainvol · 08-02-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by volsforever27

I watched this the other night and found it interesting. While I haven't read the book, some of the things discussed in this interview bring Obama into a whole new light, and quite franky are exactly what his (Obama's) critics have been saying for some time. I know that watching anything from Fox News may burn some of your retina's, but I think it's worthwhile. I'll reserve judgement until I read the book.

And before anyone says this is just a typical conservative hit piece, Corsi is very critical of Bush and the Iraq War... and that may be putting it mildly. I'm curious to see everyone's reactions after watching the clips.

Sean Hannity | Alan Colmes | Hannity & Colmes - FOXNews.com

Watch the two vids on the main page.

This is a typical conservative hit job, written by the same man who wrote that book about John Kerry with the Swift Boat Veterans.

saxvol · 08-02-2008, 01:45 PM

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This is a typical conservative hit job, written by the same man who wrote that book about John Kerry with the Swift Boat Veterans.

And what he wrote in that book has never been disproved.

g8terh8ter_eric · 08-02-2008, 01:47 PM

Corsi is a great investigator. He brought the NAU into the light and slowed it down somewhat. I hadn't heard of the NAFTA superhighway until I listened to Corsi.

emainvol · 08-02-2008, 01:54 PM

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And what he wrote in that book has never been disproved.

Entirely possible, but he is also a man who has been accused of plagiarism by a fellow conservative author, Debbie Schlussel.

He said in the course of that interview that Obama's abortion stance included something along the lines of killing a child after it had been born, which is completely inaccurate.

emainvol · 08-02-2008, 02:00 PM

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And what he wrote in that book has never been disproved.

I gotta be honest, the more I think about your claim the less I believe it. I have never read the book or researched, but there were plenty of charges of inconsistencies in the SBV's claims from reputable sources such as the New York Times, Washington Post, ABC News, etc. As they say, where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

BigPapaVol · 08-02-2008, 02:51 PM

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I gotta be honest, the more I think about your claim the less I believe it. I have never read the book or researched, but there were plenty of charges of inconsistencies in the SBV's claims from reputable sources such as the New York Times, Washington Post, ABC News, etc. As they say, where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

That set of sources is the least reputable crowd you could have listed vis a vis political commentary.

The SBV guys fit the category of where there's smoke there's fire theory. They've not been disproven, except for small inconsistencies in immaterial details. However, Kerry's tales from his days, especially on his flag burning tours, have proven 'a tad' imbellished. He threw his fellow soldiers under the bus and they jack slapped him back when the opportunity presented itself.
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MontereyVol · 08-02-2008, 03:28 PM

Why not take a position on Kerry from his former shipmates?

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-s...ens_062008.pdf

volsforever27 · 08-02-2008, 06:04 PM

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This is a typical conservative hit job, written by the same man who wrote that book about John Kerry with the Swift Boat Veterans.

It's not a conservative hit job. Read some of his interviews about the Iraq war. And he clearly stated the book wasn't pro-Bush as it was anti-Kerry. Whether you think he's credibile or not, the guy is no Bush fan, and actually I disagree with some of his stances on Iran.

emainvol · 08-02-2008, 06:06 PM

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That set of sources is the least reputable crowd you could have listed vis a vis political commentary.

The SBV guys fit the category of where there's smoke there's fire theory. They've not been disproven, except for small inconsistencies in immaterial details. However, Kerry's tales from his days, especially on his flag burning tours, have proven 'a tad' imbellished. He threw his fellow soldiers under the bus and they jack slapped him back when the opportunity presented itself.
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What about the veterans who actually served with Kerry who said that a lot of this stuff is crap?

As for my sources not being reputable, who am I supposed to believe, World Net Daily and that group of neocons that took over the National Review?

emainvol · 08-02-2008, 06:07 PM

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It's not a conservative hit job. Read some of his interviews about the Iraq war. And he clearly stated the book wasn't pro-Bush as it was anti-Kerry. Whether you think he's credibile or not, the guy is no Bush fan, and actually I disagree with some of his stances on Iran.

You don't have to be a Bush fan to be a conservative. Aside from the plagiarism and the inaccuracies in the Kerry book, the fact that he aligns himself with Jim Gilchrist is enough to turn me off to anything he might have to say

volsforever27 · 08-02-2008, 06:07 PM

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What about the veterans who actually served with Kerry who said that a lot of this stuff is crap?

As for my sources not being reputable, who am I supposed to believe, World Net Daily and that group of neocons that took over the National Review?

Nah, The daily Kos, right? Huffington Post?

volsforever27 · 08-02-2008, 06:08 PM

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You don't have to be a Bush fan to be a conservative.

No where did I say that. Learn a little more about him. just because he didn't like Kerry doesn't make him a conservative either. It makes him scared of socialists.

emainvol · 08-02-2008, 06:12 PM

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Nah, The daily Kos, right? Huffington Post?

I listed the New York Times, Washington Post, and ABC News.
Yes, I am a member of the dailykos, but it has nothing to do with this. Furthermore, the vast majority of recommended bloggers on the kos are miles ahead of the crap the World Net Daily, not just because I align with them, but because they actually attempt to do research.

emainvol · 08-02-2008, 06:14 PM

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No where did I say that. Learn a little more about him. just because he didn't like Kerry doesn't make him a conservative either. It makes him scared of socialists.

You know I don't have a problem with you, and I am not trying to put words in your mouth, but Corsi is a right wing activist, and there is really no debate.