Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation"

[emainvol]

I really do want to know how you feel about the Gilchrist thing too.

[MG1968]

Originally Posted by emainvol

You don't have to be a Bush fan to be a conservative. Aside from the plagiarism and the inaccuracies in the Kerry book, the fact that he aligns himself with Jim Gilchrist is enough to turn me off to anything he might have to say

and yet you seem to have a problem when we point out that Obama has aligned himself with people like Wright, Meeks, Ayers, Pflager, etc. If you're going to discount people for the company they keep, at least be consistent.

[emainvol]

Originally Posted by MG1968

and yet you seem to have a problem when we point out that Obama has aligned himself with people like Wright, Meeks, Ayers, Pflager, etc. If you're going to discount people for the company they keep, at least be consistent.

So, people can throw crap that someone wrote about Obama at me when the author in question consorts with a man who is a neo-Nazi and has more or less called for violence against illegal immigrants

These people can discount Obama because he has aligned himself with three men who have said some things that I have never defended and one man who has done things in his past that I have never defended.

In all this it is unacceptable and hypocritical for me to discount a book that was written by the same guy, but it isn't for them to discount Obama?

[MG1968]

where do you get that Gilchrist is a neo-Nazi? The testimony of a disgruntled volunteer who claimed that skinheads were working in phone banks during Gilchrist's congressional run?

[emainvol]

Originally Posted by MG1968

where do you get that Gilchrist is a neo-Nazi? The testimony of a disgruntled volunteer who claimed that skinheads were working in phone banks during Gilchrist's congressional run?

Actually I meant to say that differently. Gilchrist isn't a neo-Nazi, but you nailed what I was talking about.

[saxvol]

Originally Posted by emainvol

Entirely possible, but he is also a man who has been accused of plagiarism by a fellow conservative author, Debbie Schlussel.

He said in the course of that interview that Obama's abortion stance included something along the lines of killing a child after it had been born, which is completely inaccurate.

Legislation was presented on the federal level and in various states called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. It stated all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted.

BAIPA sailed through the U.S. Senate by unanimous vote. Even Sens. Clinton, Kennedy and Kerry agreed a mother's right to "choose" stopped at her baby's delivery.

The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme. President Bush signed BAIPA into law in 2002.

But in Illinois, the state version of BAIPA repeatedly failed, thanks in large part to then-state Sen. Barack Obama. It only passed in 2005, after Obama left.

In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing. So in a way...

[iceman9]

I would encourage everyone to read said article: Barack Obama Lost Years by Stan Kurtz, from the Weekly Standard. Its very long, and in depth, take what you want from it.

[volcountrynative]

Obama is all charm.

[joevol320]

Originally Posted by emainvol

Actually I meant to say that differently. Gilchrist isn't a neo-Nazi, but you nailed what I was talking about.

someone is in denial about their hero obama.

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by emainvol

I gotta be honest, the more I think about your claim the less I believe it. I have never read the book or researched, but there were plenty of charges of inconsistencies in the SBV's claims from reputable sources such as the New York Times, Washington Post, ABC News, etc. As they say, where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

So are you saying that since Obama has associated with terrorists and racists that he too would share those beliefs, like Ayers, Wright? Remember where there is smoke there's fire!

[emainvol]

Originally Posted by KB5252

So are you saying that since Obama has associated with terrorists and racists that he too would share those beliefs, like Ayers, Wright? Remember where there is smoke there's fire!

All I am saying is that Corsi is a hack.

[emainvol]

Originally Posted by KB5252

So are you saying that since Obama has associated with terrorists and racists that he too would share those beliefs, like Ayers, Wright? Remember where there is smoke there's fire!

The difference is, there aren't major media outlets out there saying "Obama is a terrorist." There are major media outlets that are saying, "Corsi is a dumbass"

[emainvol]

Originally Posted by joevol320

someone is in denial about their hero obama.

I don't know how you got that from that particular post, but hey whatever.

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by emainvol

The difference is, there aren't major media outlets out there saying "Obama is a terrorist." There are major media outlets that are saying, "Corsi is a dumbass"

I don't know anything about the man. How many of those major media outlets are left leaning though?

[emainvol]

Originally Posted by KB5252

I don't know anything about the man. How many of those major media outlets are left leaning though?

Probably all of them. I just gotta bring balance.