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07-08-2008, 02:18 PM
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| How about France I believe they follow thre universal model? | 
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07-08-2008, 02:19 PM
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| | It's time.
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Originally Posted by Fine Vol  The only downside I have heard is the wait. | That's a big downside if you're waiting on life saving surgery.
Look at anything the government runs... all the red tape, the spending, etc, then ask yourself do I want that running my healthcare?
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07-08-2008, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Fine Vol Let me ask this! Is Canada better off healthcare wise or not? | Hmmm...pull some world rankings on medical schools and compare where our top ones rank versus Canada's top schools. | 
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07-08-2008, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Fine Vol MG how many of these same beliefs did Clinton have? | Hillary or Bill?
they're both socialists as well, but Bill had a more pragmatic approach to things. He also ended up with a GOP majority in both houses so his big spending proclivities were tempered by a Congress that wasn't about to let him have his way.
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07-08-2008, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Fine Vol How about France I believe they follow thre universal model? | France's social welfare system has nearly bankrupted their economy.
Check the figures on their budget deficits, unemployment and their industrial efficiency.
socialism FAILS...every time, every place.
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07-08-2008, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MG1968 Hillary or Bill?
they're both socialists as well, but Bill had a more pragmatic approach to things. He also ended up with a GOP majority in both houses so his big spending proclivities were tempered by a Congress that wasn't about to let him have his way. | Well I was goin to say if Bill went along with Obamas approach the country did pretty well. | |
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07-08-2008, 02:22 PM
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| I am not saying I like universal healthcare just trying to see the up and downsides. | |
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07-08-2008, 02:23 PM
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| What is the upside? | |
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07-08-2008, 02:23 PM
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| there are no upsides to universal health care
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07-08-2008, 02:23 PM
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| cost? | |
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07-08-2008, 02:23 PM
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| insurance? | |
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07-08-2008, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Fine Vol cost? | You think it is really free or cheaper? | |
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07-08-2008, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by allvol123 You think it is really free or cheaper? | That is the theory. | |
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07-08-2008, 02:27 PM
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| Obama will never get universal HC passed then. | |
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07-08-2008, 02:27 PM
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| | It's time.
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Originally Posted by Fine Vol That is the theory. | I'ms ure someone will put some links to some figures, but it's neither.
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