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07-01-2008, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 The irony of your comment is that, by the time of the election, 95 % of the electorate will realize that drilling in Anwar and off the Gulf coast, by itself, would drop the price of a gallon of gas by about 20 cents .... 15 years from now.
If we want the price to come down short-term, we need to:
1) Deal with a weakening dollar, and right now. Do you even know how, why or what the ramifications might be?
2) Regulate futures commodities in oil trading. (Even saying we are going to do that will kill off some of the steam there). Regulation is the last thing that we need in commodities trading. It is what it is and regulation would only make it worse. The day we are arguing for less capitalism is the day we are damaging a market.
3) Stabilize the situation between Israel and Iran. Why?
4) Announce bold new objectives for reduction in use of oil as an energy source (again, the announcement alone affects the speculators). Don't disagree, but such pronouncements are simply garbage. If another plan is economically viable, it will come to the fore.
5) Consider a windfalls tax on Big Oil. They'll bitch, but they'll happily pay a few percentage points to look like they are helping out and, again, the perception is the key to the futures traders. Socialistic trash of this nature pretty well undermines any reason for taking your points seriously.
6) Announce goals for improved refining and transportation, realistic ones for a few years out. Again, announcements of goals are just worthless and become more worthless the loftier the goals become | enough said |
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07-01-2008, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 I see today that stocks are down again, my 401 k shrinking daily while prices go up and up and up. Most people I know owe more on their house now than its worth. Gas thievery is becoming a sport here in Orlando. Crime is through the roof. Starbucks is closing 600 U.S. stores. The dollar is close to free-fall. | Not sure where you are getting your quotes from, but the Market showed some good strength
as it closed up today after being down 150. The US Dollar has stabilized, and Starbucks had wayyyy toooo many stores anyway (its called trimming the fat, something every good corporation should do) Yahoo! Finance FXE: Summary for CURRENCYSHARES EURO - Yahoo! Finance
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07-01-2008, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by allvol123 I think you need to stick to lawyering. | He does try..LG, your a good man.  |
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07-01-2008, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TennNC How'd this go unnoticed?
Wha? | I saw it and I honestly did not know what to say.
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07-01-2008, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TennNC How'd this go unnoticed?
Wha? | agreed. WTF? |
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07-01-2008, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by myrobbins7 He does try..LG, your a good man.  | He is hard not to like sometimes. Kind of like that homeless mangy mutt you want to feed. |
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07-01-2008, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Vol Mania 21 i'm not saying that the world is about to end at this very moment, but i do think it's interesting that in the end the bible doesn't name America as one of the super powers left. this doesn't necessarily mean military wise, but maybe economic. | Dont think America was around back then  |
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07-01-2008, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by vader I saw it and I honestly did not know what to say. | Really, a lot of people believe that. These people use references made in Revelation that the US is "left" alone. Personally, I think it is the western bastardization of the Bible.... but what do I know? 
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Originally Posted by allvol123 He is hard not to like sometimes. Kind of like that homeless mangy mutt you want to feed. |  |
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07-01-2008, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Fine Vol Dont thinl America was around back then  | In part he is correct....... Bible prophecy always deals with a current revelation and a future revelation. I am not saying the US is the key but it says flee to the western hills...... to escape the oncoming wrath and destruction. The current would have literally meant Rome and Nero but we argue what the future prophecy means.
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07-01-2008, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol enough said | Good stuff BPV.  |
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07-01-2008, 04:00 PM
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| | Future end zone mod Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cookeville, TN
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| Yeah, a windfall profit tax will lower gas prices AND put more gas in your car. Great idea.
As for the bible and the U.S., I' certainly no theologian, but it doesn't mention the U.S. specifically, and a lot of people take that to mean the U.S. will no longer be around by the end times. But, it's kind of hard to understand everything in Revelations, at least for me.
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07-01-2008, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by myrobbins7 Good stuff BPV.  | Dont support BBPV
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07-01-2008, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 I see today that stocks are down again, my 401 k shrinking daily while prices go up and up and up. Most people I know owe more on their house now than its worth. Gas thievery is becoming a sport here in Orlando. Crime is through the roof. Starbucks is closing 600 U.S. stores. The dollar is close to free-fall.
Economic woes are probably the best bet the Democrats have to win more seats in the Congress and the White House. | But a lot of people got a $600 dollar stimulus check, things are fine lawgator. |
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07-01-2008, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OWB But a lot of people got a $600 dollar stimulus check, things are fine lawgator. | WE WILL ALL BE WISTLING ZIPPITY DOO DA OUT OF OUR A- - HOLES  |
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