Fox "News" is Crap

[CovVol]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

Come on guys, even those of you on the right have to admit that Fox News is not news -- its just a Republican-based Bush apologist network.

I look and see on this site repeatedly "news stories" that are taken from Fox and which are obviously written to embarass or criticize the Democrat they are based on. They routinely overstate or quote out of context, and its all to advance a conservative agenda.

You may think there is a subtle liberal media bias in the other networks, but Fox is just blatant about it.

Fair and balanced? What a joke!

I agree but what's wrong with that? The liberal media owns every other type of news media in the country. At the end of the day, it's still the responsibility of the reader/listener to judge for himself what is true/false, right/wrong, black/white/gray, etc. If you're being a jackass to someone, you cant say Keith Olberman/Bill O'Reilly said it was ok.


Also.... someone posted Olberman telling the POTUS to "Shut the hell up" a few weeks back... Olberman was spot on IMO. Maybe a little vociferous, but on target. So it's not completely one-sided here.

[Fine Vol]

2 wrongs dont make a right covvol

[allvol123]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

, and the lead story is very critical of Obama, .

Makes sense now. To see such a thing as you just described is like seeing a unicorn standing by that pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.

[KB5252]

The only commentator on Fox that is a Bush apologist would be Hannity. Bill criticizes Bush often an really is perhaps the most the most "fair and balanced" commentator on any network. You do however fail to point out all the Obama slurping that happens on daytime tv, and all the other "major" news networks out there.

[orange+white=heaven]

All of this is mitigated by the fact that the viewer knows before touching the remote what he'll (she'll) get when they tune in to any of the 24hour info channels. No, I didn't say news... news is coverage of flooding in Iowa. All do that well. Politics is opinion, the objectivity has to come from your own ability to reason...


Don't expect what is not possible to give from these people...

[CovVol]

Originally Posted by Fine Vol

2 wrongs dont make a right covvol

Im not saying there is a wrong or right in the media (there are but that's not my point)... everyone has an opinion. If they use whatever news service that will let them speak... so be it. It is still the reader's/listener's responsibility how much garbage they will accept as truth/falsehood... which in most cases is an opinion as well. So really.... most of what we argue about is that gray area.

[lawgator1]

Originally Posted by KB5252

The only commentator on Fox that is a Bush apologist would be Hannity. Bill criticizes Bush often an really is perhaps the most the most "fair and balanced" commentator on any network. You do however fail to point out all the Obama slurping that happens on daytime tv, and all the other "major" news networks out there.

I respect it when a member of the right criticizes Bush for being too soft on illegal immigration or allowing spending to be so out of control.

Even as a Democrat, I happen to agree that both parties have been incredibly ineffectual in dealing with both of those issues and both should be criticized.

Hannity? Pure evil. I was flipping through channels on the radio yesterday, in fact, and caught his radio show. He whined sarcastically for a bit, until I could take no more. Every time I've seen him or heard him, its the same schtick.

Wha wha wha. How can anyone listen to that man or, worse, take their political cues from him? I swear all he does is complain 24/7/365.

[CovVol]

Originally Posted by orange+white=heaven

All of this is mitigated by the fact that the viewer knows before touching the remote what he'll (she'll) get when they tune in to any of the 24hour info channels. No, I didn't say news... news is coverage of flooding in Iowa. All do that well. Politics is opinion, the objectivity has to come from your own ability to reason...


Don't expect what is not possible to give from these people...

Which is why it is important to watch more than one if you're going to watch at all.

[allvol123]

Hannity is awful. I doubt you see many people on here use him for backing up any idea. Hannity does not comprise all of Fox News. In fact, his counterpart on that TV show is equally horrible and impossible to listen to.

[MG1968]

Originally Posted by KB5252

The only commentator on Fox that is a Bush apologist would be Hannity. Bill criticizes Bush often an really is perhaps the most the most "fair and balanced" commentator on any network. You do however fail to point out all the Obama slurping that happens on daytime tv, and all the other "major" news networks out there.

Hannity is far from a Bush apologist. He was very critical of McCain-Feingold, Bush-Kennedy, the prescription drug program, many spending bills that continued increasing the size and scope of government, and the various farm bills.

I can listen to him, but I have to throw my arms up in frustration when he brings up Wright, Pfleger, and Ayers. Everybody knows that Obama has questionable associations, but Hannity has chosen to beat those dead horses into the ground.

[CovVol]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

I respect it when a member of the right criticizes Bush for being too soft on illegal immigration or allowing spending to be so out of control.

Even as a Democrat, I happen to agree that both parties have been incredibly ineffectual in dealing with both of those issues and both should be criticized.

Hannity? Pure evil. I was flipping through channels on the radio yesterday, in fact, and caught his radio show. He whined sarcastically for a bit, until I could take no more. Every time I've seen him or heard him, its the same schtick.

Wha wha wha. How can anyone listen to that man or, worse, take their political cues from him? I swear all he does is complain 24/7/365.

[lawgator1]

Originally Posted by MG1968

Hannity is far from a Bush apologist. He was very critical of McCain-Feingold, Bush-Kennedy, the prescription drug program, many spending bills that continued increasing the size and scope of government, and the various farm bills.

I can listen to him, but I have to throw my arms up in frustration when he brings up Wright, Pfleger, and Ayers. Everybody knows that Obama has questionable associations, but Hannity has chosen to beat those dead horses into the ground.

That's because he (Hannity) is exploiting the racial fears of the white voters. He figures that Obama's associations with the "angry black man" mentality of Wright et al will be meaningful.

Know what? I think he may be right. Its distressing, but I think he is pushing a point a lot of people will respond to.

[kev20]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

Wha wha wha. How can anyone listen to that man or, worse, take their political cues from him? I swear all he does is complain 24/7/365.

I am in no way a political person, so therefore I can't see how anyone could take cues from anyone else. Why don't people make their own decisions instead of letting a mouthpiece for one political party or another sway their judgment? Never have understood this.

Also, I could never understand why people, just because they are affiliated with one of the parties, blindly agree with almost everything that party says or does even if it is blatantly in the wrong. Why compromise your beliefs and values just to follow the company line? Seems kind of dangerous to me.

[SWIL]

It's not just the lefties that think Fox News is full of . Here is what FAIR (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting; a national watchdog organization) has to say about FOX:

The Most Biased Name in News

FAIR, the national media watch group, has been offering well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship since 1986. We work to invigorate the First Amendment by advocating for greater diversity in the press and by scrutinizing media practices that marginalize public interest, minority and dissenting viewpoints. As an anti-censorship organization, we expose neglected news stories and defend working journalists when they are muzzled. As a progressive group, FAIR believes that structural reform is ultimately needed to break up the dominant media conglomerates, establish independent public broadcasting and promote strong non-profit sources of information.

[Jaytrain5]

Originally Posted by allvol123

Hannity is awful. I doubt you see many people on here use him for backing up any idea. Hannity does not comprise all of Fox News. In fact, his counterpart on that TV show is equally horrible and impossible to listen to.

Agreed.

I'm not a big Hannity fan, but Colmes is just as bad.

I don't think that Fox's message of "Fair and Balanced" is intended to insinuate that every Fox analyst is fair and balanced...or that every broadcast will be fair and balanced...I think, instead, it's Fox's intention to give you a fair and balanced sampling of conservative journalists and liberal journalists. I'll admit, though, that you get more conservative journalism than liberal journalism with Fox.