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06-23-2008, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by truefan Who is rejoicing over the high oil prices? | The environmental nuts. |
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06-23-2008, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by allvol123 The environmental nuts. | actually I'm not an environmental nut and think it could turn out to be a good thing.
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06-23-2008, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by utvolpj actually I'm not an environmental nut and think it could turn out to be a good thing. | Just as sometimes I think Obama winning could be a good thing. Have to feel the pinch for people to wake up, kind of thing? |
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06-23-2008, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by allvol123 Just as sometimes I think Obama winning could be a good thing. Have to feel the pinch for people to wake up, kind of thing? | Funny you say that seeing as Bush might just get Obama elected. |
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06-23-2008, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by allvol123 Just as sometimes I think Obama winning could be a good thing. Have to feel the pinch for people to wake up, kind of thing? | yep plus I also think it would be a huge blow to our enemies in the Middle East when all the money suddenly vanishes. They have 1 product keeping the whole region afloat and we buy as much as they can produce.
When all crack heads go to rehab, what happens to the dealers?
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06-23-2008, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by utvolpj yep plus I also think it would be a huge blow to our enemies in the Middle East when all the money suddenly vanishes. They have 1 product keeping the whole region afloat and we buy as much as they can produce.
When all crack heads go to rehab, what happens to the dealers? | I can agree with that, short term bad thing, long term good thing. Also, it crushes the environmental wacko movement when the masses start to feel it impact their daily lives. |
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06-23-2008, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 615 Vol Funny you say that seeing as Bush might just get Obama elected. | Tell me, what pinch has Bush caused you? |
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06-23-2008, 03:13 PM
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| please post me the link to any article or newstory on fox news or foxnews.com that even IMPLIES that "minorities are lazy and uneducated and most are immoral." Thanks much. |
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06-23-2008, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 615 Vol Fox News is indeed crap. PBS is the way to go.  | I can live with the first part... but the second... 
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06-23-2008, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 615 Vol Funny you say that seeing as Bush might just get Obama elected. | Bush is the best thing ever to happen to Obama.
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06-23-2008, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by truefan Who is rejoicing over the high oil prices? | Quote:
Originally Posted by allvol123 The environmental nuts. | Quote:
Originally Posted by utvolpj actually I'm not an environmental nut and think it could turn out to be a good thing. |
This exchange is EXACTLY what I'm talking about re: this incredibly frustrating effort by uber-conservatives to make all people who are middle of the road or even a little left on some issues seem like radicals.
No one is "rejoicing" over high oil prices (except for those that own the oil, of course). But what some people who take a larger view of things recognize is that it was inevitable as the resource dwindled and demand grew that this kind of thing is natural.
Higher oil prices make it economically feasible to invest in and produce alternative energy sources. Until now, things like solar and wind power were too costly relative to the same unit of energy that could be prodcued from oil.
As those cost/unit lines get close to converging, the incentive to be on the front end and to develop alternatives grows. Its simple economics.
But noooooo. The conservatives have to make it seem like anyone who sees this bigger picture is an "environmental nut." |
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06-23-2008, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 This exchange is EXACTLY what I'm talking about re: this incredibly frustrating effort by uber-conservatives to make all people who are middle of the road or even a little left on some issues seem like radicals. | you quoted me so please explain how that is even close to my intent. Or did you just skip my other posts Quote:
Originally Posted by lawgator1 Higher oil prices make it economically feasible to invest in and produce alternative energy sources. Until now, things like solar and wind power were too costly relative to the same unit of energy that could be prodcued from oil.
As those cost/unit lines get close to converging, the incentive to be on the front end and to develop alternatives grows. Its simple economics.
But noooooo. The conservatives have to make it seem like anyone who sees this bigger picture is an "environmental nut." | and I've actually stated that quite a few times on this very board. If you're going to take a quote make sure you know the beliefs of the poster.
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06-23-2008, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 This exchange is EXACTLY what I'm talking about re: this incredibly frustrating effort by uber-conservatives to make all people who are middle of the road or even a little left on some issues seem like radicals.
No one is "rejoicing" over high oil prices (except for those that own the oil, of course). But what some people who take a larger view of things recognize is that it was inevitable as the resource dwindled and demand grew that this kind of thing is natural.
Higher oil prices make it economically feasible to invest in and produce alternative energy sources. Until now, things like solar and wind power were too costly relative to the same unit of energy that could be prodcued from oil.
As those cost/unit lines get close to converging, the incentive to be on the front end and to develop alternatives grows. Its simple economics. But noooooo. The conservatives have to make it seem like anyone who sees this bigger picture is an "environmental nut." | Who..... you are painting with a very broad brush by lumping every thing into blaming every thing on conservatives... Also, do you talk like this in the courtroom... cause if you do, that would be priceless........
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06-23-2008, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by droski please post me the link to any article or newstory on fox news or foxnews.com that even IMPLIES that "minorities are lazy and uneducated and most are immoral." Thanks much. | Well, you kind of put me on the spot because its not like they exist every moment of every day.
But, here's one from Drudge today which is couched in terms of efforts to make race not an issue in the campaign, but when you read it appears to forewarn that Obama will use it as a shield to deflect criticism. The story is pre-emptive and anticipatory of race-baiting. Obama braces for race-based ads
And here's one from Fox today, about comparing comments from Spike Lee and Mayor Nagin of New Orleans about a "chocolate city," engendering fear in the minds of voters that Obama is going to turn the White House or Washington more culturally or politically "black." Spike Lee Sees ‘Chocolate City’ Under an Obama Administration - America’s Election HQ
I note that Fox is also running the same story that Drudge did above implying that any claim by Obama's camp that race is being used against him is to be dismissed as race-baiting. |
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06-23-2008, 03:46 PM
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#195 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 This exchange is EXACTLY what I'm talking about re: this incredibly frustrating effort by uber-conservatives to make all people who are middle of the road or even a little left on some issues seem like radicals.
No one is "rejoicing" over high oil prices (except for those that own the oil, of course). But what some people who take a larger view of things recognize is that it was inevitable as the resource dwindled and demand grew that this kind of thing is natural.
Higher oil prices make it economically feasible to invest in and produce alternative energy sources. Until now, things like solar and wind power were too costly relative to the same unit of energy that could be prodcued from oil.
As those cost/unit lines get close to converging, the incentive to be on the front end and to develop alternatives grows. Its simple economics.
But noooooo. The conservatives have to make it seem like anyone who sees this bigger picture is an "environmental nut." |
Yes, you have it all down LG. |
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