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Old 06-23-2008, 02:28 PM   #166 (permalink)
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Clueless is someone who would vote for socialism... but continue to make your enlightened posts.

Gore is too busy trying to scam people to run for POTUS, but whatever delusions make you happy, go with it. Obama being worse is doubtful? Thanks for the laugh.

To doubt the facts concerning climate change and global warming is nothing but partisan ignorance.

Laugh at the facts all you want. Those who laugh tend to live longer anyway, so laugh away my friend
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:33 PM   #167 (permalink)
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The problem with the global warming debate is that the left thinks that everyone on the right is trying to protect a socio-economic order that benefits them whereas the right thinks that everyone on the left is trying to change the socio-economic order.

Lost in the noise of the debate over motives, is whether we are or are not altering things. Everytime someone points to a study that supports their point of view, they and the study are dismissed as propaganda.

I don't know what to believe about the issue -- but I will say that it is remarkable to me that given the stakes no one seems willing to put aside their own relatively petty politics to sit down and figure it out.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:33 PM   #168 (permalink)
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damn I was not ready for that.
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Back to the original business.

I don't know any self respecting individual that doesn't throw up in their mouth at times when they are watching Fox news.....it can be down right painful. (I really don't watch it much to be honest)

But in the end it is better than having the traditional media outlets shoving their "liberal value driven" editorials down our throats.

What is wrong with that honest answer? It is really the way most conservatives feel.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:36 PM   #170 (permalink)
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If you've actually followed Drudge lately he's been a bit more than fair to Obama. And he links to stories but does not write them. Most of them on any given day are from "respectable" news outlets.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:41 PM   #171 (permalink)
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If you've actually followed Drudge lately he's been a bit more than fair to Obama. And he links to stories but does not write them. Most of them on any given day are from "respectable" news outlets.

I don't know if I'd go that far, but I have noticed I think elements of both parties that are positioning themselves to do some "I told you so's" after the election.

If McCain wins, I think you can pretty much guarantee that Hillary will be smirking and she'd be back and have a lock on the nomination in 2012. If Obama wins, then conservative radio show hosts secretly be delighted because for the next four years they can say see what happens when the party has gotten away from its base.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:48 PM   #172 (permalink)
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The two remarkable things about both of these posts are that 1) neither of you disagrees with the premise that both Fox and Drudge manipulate the facts of a report in order to make a story more likely to appeal to conservatives, i.e. to bury or flatly ignore the fact that the pledge was made at the subject school every day except the one day;

and 2) instaed of telling me what's right about Fox and Drudge, you just whine some more about the other liberal media outlets. Even if your characterizations of CNN and MSNBC et. al. were correct, that does not justify mindless loyalty to being told over and over the things you already think.

I mean, if that's all you want, I can do it for you. Here goes.

War is good.
Arabs are evil.
Minorities are lazy and uneducated and most are immoral.
Public schools suck.
The government is trying to take all your money.
If we just gave our kids a little more discipline and fewer condoms, all would be right with the world.
Are you a self serving trial lawyer?

Every thing in this world has slant to it.

I do not care if someone wants to listen or watch Fox News because I believe in freedom! You have the choice to watch or not.

I don't need Fox News to tell me how to think about politics. I prefer the founders and their personal writings on government!
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I don't know if I'd go that far, but I have noticed I think elements of both parties that are positioning themselves to do some "I told you so's" after the election.
others would. Drudge keeps campaigns guessing - Jonathan Martin and Ben Smith - Politico.com

For a right-wing mouthpiece he's not doing a great job.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:50 PM   #174 (permalink)
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To doubt the facts concerning climate change and global warming is nothing but partisan ignorance.

Laugh at the facts all you want. Those who laugh tend to live longer anyway, so laugh away my friend
I don't any thing is silly enough not to believe in climate change or whatever you want to call it.

The issue is losing your basic liberty to something that may not be occuring at the rate some people would have you believe.

Or better yet that the Earth naturally goes in cycles and we are arrogant enough to believe that we have something major to do with it.
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I do not care if someone wants to listen or watch Fox News because I believe in freedom! You have the choice to watch or not.
but the Dems seem to think you need help balancing out what you see and listen to every day. Good thing the "fairness" doctrine is out there
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but the Dems seem to think you need help balancing out what you see and listen to every day. Good thing the "fairness" doctrine is out there
Who cares about balance.....every thing is about freedom!

I can be an idiot and think Fox is fair......... who cares?
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:54 PM   #177 (permalink)
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The two remarkable things about both of these posts are that 1) neither of you disagrees with the premise that both Fox and Drudge manipulate the facts of a report in order to make a story more likely to appeal to conservatives, i.e. to bury or flatly ignore the fact that the pledge was made at the subject school every day except the one day;

and 2) instaed of telling me what's right about Fox and Drudge, you just whine some more about the other liberal media outlets. Even if your characterizations of CNN and MSNBC et. al. were correct, that does not justify mindless loyalty to being told over and over the things you already think.

I mean, if that's all you want, I can do it for you. Here goes.

War is good.
Arabs are evil.
Minorities are lazy and uneducated and most are immoral.
Public schools suck.
The government is trying to take all your money.
If we just gave our kids a little more discipline and fewer condoms, all would be right with the world.


Actually, they don't manipulate the facts, you think that because of your views, not vice versa. You're free to watch whatever liberal biased network you want, just because I don't watch a network that is dying to get Obama elected doesn't mean I have a narrow view. You have no proof to back up any of your claims, and it's just typical of the posts you make here. I respect your opinions on politics about as much as I do football.

I'm going to save you time and sum up the news you watch:

Bush = bad

Obama = greatest thing since sliced bread.

You can thank me later.
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To doubt the facts concerning climate change and global warming is nothing but partisan ignorance.

Laugh at the facts all you want. Those who laugh tend to live longer anyway, so laugh away my friend
Partisan ignorance is rejoicing over the fact that oil is so high. And at thius rate, if you make me laugh any more I'll live to be 100.
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:02 PM   #179 (permalink)
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Partisan ignorance is rejoicing over the fact that oil is so high. And at thius rate, if you make me laugh any more I'll live to be 100.
Who is rejoicing over the high oil prices?
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Fox News is indeed crap. PBS is the way to go.
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