What are the Dems gonna do

[DAVOL]

How the hell are we gonna win in Nov. with someone like Howard Dean running the DNC I mean just look at the 06 elections and the special elections since then man I just feel so hopeless about facing McCain.LMAO
Mississippi election loss is GOP 'wakeup call' - CNN.com

[emainvol]

I'm sure it won't take long for this to spin into a "Republican leadership sucks" thread. While I am not arguing that Republican leadership isn't severely lacking, credit must be given where it is due. People like Dean and Emanuel have seized a great opportunity for the Democratic party and made the best of it.

[Rasputin_Vol]

Originally Posted by emainvol

I'm sure it won't take long for this to spin into a "Republican leadership sucks" thread. While I am not arguing that Republican leadership isn't severely lacking, credit must be given where it is due. People like Dean and Emanuel have seized a great opportunity for the Democratic party and made the best of it.

The GOP has helped them along the way...

[emainvol]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

The GOP has helped them along the way...

did you bother to read my entire post?

[DAVOL]

Originally Posted by emainvol

I'm sure it won't take long for this to spin into a "Republican leadership sucks" thread. While I am not arguing that Republican leadership isn't severely lacking, credit must be given where it is due. People like Dean and Emanuel have seized a great opportunity for the Democratic party and made the best of it.

Yeah there are people on here that would never give Dean any credit at all but facts are facts since he took over what is the gop's record in competitive congressional elections what do they have about a 13% winning % in competitive races.I know if I was conservative I would pray for sorry ass Mccaullife to take back over.

[Rasputin_Vol]

Originally Posted by emainvol

did you bother to read my entire post?

Yes. And my point is that it has more to do with what the GOP hasn't done than what Rahm Emanuel or Dean have done.

You could have Bozo leading the DNC and there's still a chance the GOP gets their clock cleaned in November.

[emainvol]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

Yes. And my point is that it has more to do with what the GOP hasn't done than what Rahm Emanuel or Dean have done.

You could have Bozo leading the DNC and there's still a chance the GOP gets their clock cleaned in November.

Really? So Democratic leadership didn't pull a magic act by winning multiple dead red districts, and the 50 state plan just happened to be implemented at the right time. Again, I think it just pains a lot of people to admit that Howard Dean isn't worthless.

[DAVOL]

Originally Posted by emainvol

Really? So Democratic leadership didn't pull a magic act by winning multiple dead red districts, and the 50 state plan just happened to be implemented at the right time. Again, I think it just pains a lot of people to admit that Howard Dean isn't worthless.

Dean is a fighter he won't lay back and take it like Mccaullife.

[Rasputin_Vol]

Originally Posted by emainvol

Really? So Democratic leadership didn't pull a magic act by winning multiple dead red districts, and the 50 state plan just happened to be implemented at the right time. Again, I think it just pains a lot of people to admit that Howard Dean isn't worthless.

You have no idea how frustrated people are with the GOP right now. Dems hate the pubs... and pubs hate the pubs. People are just looking for "change"...

I mean, you've still got people voting for Obama in spite of the Rev. Wright crap.

[emainvol]

Originally Posted by DAVOL

Dean is a fighter he won't lay back and take it like Mccaullife.

Dean is a smart man who had his political ambitions derailed by the media.

[emainvol]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

You have no idea how frustrated people are with the GOP right now. Dems hate the pubs... and pubs hate the pubs. People are just looking for "change"...

I mean, you've still got people voting for Obama in spite of the Rev. Wright crap.

I understand that people are frustrated, but all I hear is this "the Dems always find a way to screw things up" crap, then when Democratic leadership does something good it's "it's only because people are fed up with the GOP."

[SWIL]

Democrat Travis Childers defeated Republican Greg Davis on Tuesday in a Mississippi district that hasn't voted Democratic in more than 15 years, one where George W. Bush defeated John Kerry by 25 points in 2004.

[GAVol]

Originally Posted by emainvol

I understand that people are frustrated, but all I hear is this "the Dems always find a way to screw things up" crap, then when Democratic leadership does something good it's "it's only because people are fed up with the GOP."

I don't think people are fed up with the GOP as much as they are just not energized even slightly by them. Congressional Republicans of today look an awful lot like Congressional Democrats from the mid to late 90s. There's just not much being put out there to get excited about.

[Rasputin_Vol]

Originally Posted by emainvol

I understand that people are frustrated, but all I hear is this "the Dems always find a way to screw things up" crap, then when Democratic leadership does something good it's "it's only because people are fed up with the GOP."

What have the dems done that is innovative or any different than what they've done the past 50 years? They still are playing class and race warfare and still demogoging and making promises of freebies.

Their message hasn't changed and their approach isn't any different than it normally is.

[emainvol]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

What have the dems done that is innovative or any different than what they've done the past 50 years? They still are playing class and race warfare and still demogoging and making promises of freebies.

Their message hasn't changed and their approach isn't any different than it normally is.

I disagree, mostly because of the tactics that are being employed these days as part of the 50 state plan. They certainly aren't winning very Republican districts by going crazy left.