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View Poll Results: Is torture unconstitutional? | |
Yes
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No
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02-22-2008, 04:06 PM
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| | Rational Thought Allowed?
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| Is torture unconstitutional?
Thoughts?
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LG, when I think of UT football I think about world class sprinter WR's, like Gault,...fast bruising hard to tackle RB's, great OL play and a D that'll knock your d**k in the dirt. That's from the Johnny Major era thru the Philip Fulmer era.--HIGHTIDE 25 APR
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02-22-2008, 04:09 PM
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| | Florida does too
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| The poll is flawed. Torture can be defined in a number of ways! | |
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02-22-2008, 04:10 PM
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| | Go Vols
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02-22-2008, 04:10 PM
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| | Rational Thought Allowed?
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| Does it go against the US Constitution?
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LG, when I think of UT football I think about world class sprinter WR's, like Gault,...fast bruising hard to tackle RB's, great OL play and a D that'll knock your d**k in the dirt. That's from the Johnny Major era thru the Philip Fulmer era.--HIGHTIDE 25 APR
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02-22-2008, 04:41 PM
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| | Mergelicious
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| Could torture be considered a "cruel and unusual punishment"?
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02-22-2008, 04:43 PM
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| | Mergelicious
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| For that matter, do the protections of the Constitution extend to non-Americans?
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02-22-2008, 04:44 PM
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| | Alabama Hater
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| I think it involves a situation....Army purposes it is ok, if its hostage, anything putting another person in any harm it should be ok. But doing it for useless information, and like stuff in guantanamo, and all that is pathetic, and should be looked down upon. But Unconstitutional idk about??
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02-22-2008, 04:45 PM
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| | Go Vols
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Originally Posted by vader  For that matter, do the protections of the Constitution extend to non-Americans? | good question | |
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02-22-2008, 05:04 PM
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| | The BOB..big ol' block
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| The 8th amendment says "no cruel and unusual punishment", but should these apply to non-american citizen terrorist. If I were to be captured, thrown in jail, made to wear womens unerwear on my head, and the jailer threw a bible down on the floor and urinated all over it, would I be enraged by this? Probably not, I was probably involved in some of this in college. But the media was appalled when found that a muslim imprisoned by the military did this changing the bible for the koran, this was considered "cruel and unusual". I personally believe that all methods should be used in a narrow scope, when numerous American lives are at risk. But would that be constitutional, I don't know. Would I be p.....off, if my family were killed by a terrorist act, and said terrorist was sitting in a cell with his ACLU appointed attorney, and praying to the west, your damn right I would be. By the way, would any one like to fancy a guess how many times waterboarding has been used in the past 4 or 5 yrs? What congress and the media has been so engulfed about.
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02-22-2008, 07:48 PM
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| | Just Win Baby
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| I agree Ice and I think the answer to the waterboarding is around 3 times.. very high ranking AQ personnel. | |
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02-22-2008, 07:53 PM
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| | The BOB..big ol' block
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Originally Posted by tim I agree Ice and I think the answer to the waterboarding is around 3 times.. very high ranking AQ personnel. | You are correct good sir, and of those 3, one was involved in the Daniel Pearl kidnapping and beheading, and the other the 9/11 mastermind.
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02-22-2008, 08:02 PM
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| | Just Win Baby
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| BTW.. Without the threat of some type of compliance/truth obtaining method the US will be out of the intelligence business. We will have to hire out our interviewers.. Like a rendition to say Pakistan or other country who knows how to get to the truth.. Having said this I don't want our troops put into harms way if they are captured, however I know they are.. | |
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02-22-2008, 08:04 PM
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| | Let's go hunting!
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| I think I'd rather be waterboarded than have my head cut off while a bunch of masked psychopaths babbled about the greatness of allah.
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02-22-2008, 08:09 PM
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| | Just Win Baby
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Originally Posted by MG1968 I think I'd rather be waterboarded than have my head cut off while a bunch of masked psychopaths babbled about the greatness of allah. | Exactly.. Let's ask an attorney... On second thought lets not.
The way congress went after the CIA on this waterboarding issue you would have thought that we were beheading these Godless bastards of the Middle East. | |
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