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Old 02-17-2008, 05:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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For the 1st time ever, I laughed out loud ...

... at a candidate during a speech.

Hillary Clinton said in El Paso today that she wants an America where minimum wage for full time employees will be $9.50/hour. I seriously laughed out loud as soon as she finished the sentence.

Thoughts on her wanting that minimum wage?
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Old 02-17-2008, 05:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 02-17-2008, 05:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Why should 32 year old crackhead flipping a burger get paid $9.50?

She's a dumbass with absolutely no common sense.
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Old 02-17-2008, 05:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Why should 32 year old crackhead flipping a burger get paid $9.50?

She's a dumbass with absolutely no common sense.
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Old 02-17-2008, 05:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It's really not funny.

The skills required to do some jobs aren't worth $9.50 an hour.
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Old 02-17-2008, 05:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It's really not funny.

The skills required to do some jobs aren't worth $9.50 an hour.
Oh justin I agree about the $$$ part, the funny part was about Hillary. Funny but true...
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Oh justin I agree about the $$$ part, the funny part was about Hillary. Funny but true...
It had to be said.

I try to stay away from political debates, but this is ignorant. It really blows my mind.

I could really rant about minimum wage but I'll have to do that later.
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Old 02-17-2008, 05:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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federal minimum wage hasn't kept up with inflation and is one of the reasons the census bureau estimates that there are about 35 million people living below the poverty line in our country.

i think bringing minimum wage up to 9.50 right away is probably unrealistic (though not an inherently bad idea), but many cities have raised their own minimum wage beyond the minimum federal guidelines. for example, in san francisco, minumum wage is 9.36/hr, and that covers even restaurant employees who get tips.
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Old 02-17-2008, 05:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
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federal minimum wage hasn't kept up with inflation and is one of the reasons the census bureau estimates that there are about 35 million people living below the poverty line in our country.

i think bringing minimum wage up to 9.50 right away is probably unrealistic (though not an inherently bad idea), but many cities have raised their own minimum wage beyond the minimum federal guidelines. for example, in san francisco, minumum wage is 9.36/hr, and that covers even restaurant employees who get tips.
$9.36/hour in the Bay Area is obviously different than $9.36 in London, Kentucky.
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i think bringing minimum wage up to 9.50 right away is probably unrealistic (though not an inherently bad idea),
It is an awful idea.
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So who is going to pay for this $9.50 a hour min. wage, did she answer that?
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how about we let the market determine pay levels commensurate with sill required, difficulty of work, labor supply etc. You know, just the basics of frickin' capitalism.
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$9.36/hour in the Bay Area is obviously different than $9.36 in London, Kentucky.
I'm not arguing to the contrary. It very well might be that 9.50 would be steep for a national minimum wage. My point is that the increases up to this point reflect neither inflation nor national cost of living standards. The whole system needs to be addressed. What number they come up with in the end, I don't care. I don't make minimum wage, so it's not personal. I just want others to be able to enjoy the basic benefits of life. A mother working a standard work week making minimum wage should not be food uncertain.
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I think states should handle minimum wage. A federal minimum wage is ridiculous, always has been.
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how about we let the market determine pay levels commensurate with sill required, difficulty of work, labor supply etc. You know, just the basics of frickin' capitalism.
Because capitalism as a system has no regard for poverty. If you work a full work week and make minimum wage, you should not be poor in your region. Alas, capitalism and market forces have failed to set minimum wage (in many, not all places) at a level that makes life without poverty possible.
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