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02-06-2008, 09:44 PM
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| | Straight cash, homey...
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| If Reagan and Ford were campaigning today...
Who would win the nomination in 2008?
If you answer this question honestly, you would have to say Ford would win, which illustrates how far the GOP has come to the center... | 
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02-06-2008, 09:46 PM
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| | Dusting the rafters
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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol  Who would win the nomination in 2008?
If you answer this question honestly, you would have to say Ford would win, which illustrates how far the GOP has come to the center... | I know what you're saying, and there may be some truth to that, but if there was a conservative like Reagan who could get the base energized it would be a whole different ball game.
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02-06-2008, 09:47 PM
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| What would you say is most responsible for this movement...natural ebb and flow, Bush, something else? | |
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02-06-2008, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TennTradition What would you say is most responsible for this movement...natural ebb and flow, Bush, something else? | If you're asking me, I think it's RINO's. People who claim to be conservatives get to D.C. and everything changes.
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02-06-2008, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by volsforever27 If you're asking me, I think it's RINO's. People who claim to be conservatives get to D.C. and everything changes. | But aren't these guys generally fairly easy to spot? We're sending them there by voting for them...something must be driving us to vote for them... | |
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02-06-2008, 09:55 PM
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| | Straight cash, homey...
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Originally Posted by volsforever27 If you're asking me, I think it's RINO's. People who claim to be conservatives get to D.C. and everything changes. | Look at what happened when a Ford got the nod. He lost to Jimmy Carter.
Does anyone expect a different result if you have 2 stronger candidates on the Dem side than Carter? | |
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02-06-2008, 09:55 PM
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| | The BOB..big ol' block
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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol Who would win the nomination in 2008?
If you answer this question honestly, you would have to say Ford would win, which illustrates how far the GOP has come to the center... | When I first read this, I would be in total agreement with you, Ford hands down. But the one thing about Reagan was his communication skills, and how he brought people together. The anti-Bush, so I would give him a fair shot, that and Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, Beck Coulter, would all go 24/7 for the guy...... 
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02-06-2008, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TennTradition But aren't these guys generally fairly easy to spot? We're sending them there by voting for them...something must be driving us to vote for them... | The biggest mystery of 2008... | |
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02-06-2008, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman9 When I first read this, I would be in total agreement with you, Ford hands down. But the one thing about Reagan was his communication skills, and how he brought people together. The anti-Bush, so I would give him a fair shot, that and Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, Beck Coulter, would all go 24/7 for the guy...... | Is their guy winning right now? | |
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02-06-2008, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol Is their guy winning right now? | Who are they really backing? I hear them talking more favorably about Hillary than anyone with (R) by their name. | |
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02-06-2008, 09:58 PM
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| Reagan would win. Because in the debates the other candidates mention his name about a 100 times each. | 
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02-06-2008, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol Is their guy winning right now? | No, but are any of these guys the communicator that Reagan was? There is zero energy in the Republican party now, and those guys know it.
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02-06-2008, 10:10 PM
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| | Straight cash, homey...
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Originally Posted by TennTradition Who are they really backing? I hear them talking more favorably about Hillary than anyone with (R) by their name. | In late 2006, it was Rudy. By last summer, they were drafting Fred. After Fred looked lifeless/disinterested in campaigning this fall, they turned to Romney and have pretty much rode that horse the last few months.
In other words, no core convictions. | |
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02-06-2008, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman9 No, but are any of these guys the communicator that Reagan was? There is zero energy in the Republican party now, and those guys know it. | That is the biggest problem right now. No one to get excited about. And it stems back to one problem, who is the leader of the conservative movement?
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02-06-2008, 10:12 PM
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| | I ♥ Eric Berry
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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol In late 2006, it was Rudy. By last summer, they were drafting Fred. After Fred looked lifeless/disinterested in campaigning this fall, they turned to Romney and have pretty much rode that horse the last few months.
In other words, no core convictions. | Fred Thompson appears to have largely sat on his butt and, as a result, blew a good opportunity. | |
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