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Old 02-05-2008, 08:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Maybe this slows down the Neo-Puritanical movement?

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The researchers found that the group of healthy, never-smoking individuals had the highest lifetime healthcare costs, because they lived the longest and developed diseases associated with aging; healthcare costs were lowest for the smokers, and intermediate for the group of obese never-smokers.

Determining Lifetime Medical Costs Of Obesity
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Healthcare costs be damned, if I'm ever fat or a smoker, life would not be worth living.
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Healthcare costs be damned, if I'm ever fat or a smoker, life would not be worth living.
You mean you went to Berkeley and you don't smoke?
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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You mean you lived in Berkeley and you can think of something worse?
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Too funny. Makes sense though.
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There are other ways to ingest natural herbal substances.
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This seems flawed

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Pieter van Baal and colleagues, from the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment in the Netherlands, created a mathematical model to try to answer this question.
In their study, van Baal and his co-workers created three hypothetical populations of 1000 men and women, all aged 20 years at the start: a group of obese, never-smoking individuals; a group of healthy-never smoking individuals of normal weight; and a group of smokers of normal weight. The model produced an estimate of the likely proportion of each group who would encounter certain long term (chronic) diseases, and then estimated what the approximate cost of medical care associated with each disease was likely to be.
It's not based on actual data, but a "mathmatical model" and "hypothetical populations."
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Old 02-06-2008, 01:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
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This seems flawed



It's not based on actual data, but a "mathmatical model" and "hypothetical populations."
I agree, any study done by a fellow named "Peter Ball" can't be trusted.
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Old 02-06-2008, 01:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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It's not based on actual data, but a "mathmatical model" and "hypothetical populations."
It just likely means the results are heavily subject to their assumptions. The study could be meaningful or crap depending on that...
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Old 02-06-2008, 01:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You mean someone came to the determination that it costs more to live to be 80 than it does to live to be 60? I am flabbergasted by this.
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