Who is Ron Paul?

[**ORANGEBLOOD**]

Some people in my community say he would be a better choice than Romney or McCain. Any thoughts?

[therealUT]

Ideological? YES!!! Pragmatically? Unfortunately, no. The Libertarian movement needs to get solid representation in state legislatures first, then move up through Congress, and then the Executive Office.

[MG1968]

He's fine til he descends into his blather about how US support for Israel is the reason for all of the problems in the Middle East. His isolationism doesn't sit well with a lot of people either. He really is little more than Pat Buchanan wrapped up in a slightly warmer and fuzzier package.

[615 Vol]

Speaking of people that don't have a chance of winning, has there been a Ralph Nader sighting in a while?

[GAVol]

Originally Posted by **ORANGEBLOOD**

Some people in my community say he would be a better choice than Romney or McCain. Any thoughts?

I'd move to another community.

Seriously, he's got some good ideas and I like some of his explanations when it comes to economicpolicy, but he flies off the tracks for my tastes when he discusses foreign policy and starts sounding like a cult leader.

[U-T]

Love most of his thoughts and would vote for him if not for his tax plan

[Rasputin_Vol]

Paul was the GOP's last hope. Now they'll have to decide between Romney and McCain. Neither of these guys are true conservatives, neither really has a plan to control the border, neither has a plan to control spending, neither has a plan to achieve energy independence. All they want to do is move to the center, keep the borders open and have amnesty for illegals, and waste a bunch of American capital on wind mills, solar power, and shutting down coal plants.

May as well let one of the two commie candidates (Hillary or Obama) win.

LOL at Romney and McCain fighting like two little school girls over some he said/she said crap.

Are these the best two conservative candidates that the GOP has?

[GAVol]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

Paul was the GOP's last hope.

Not exactly

[Rasputin_Vol]

Originally Posted by GAVol

Not exactly

With no other conservative on deck, you can look forward to 2 terms of Hillary. Nobody on deck or on the GOP bench is anymore conservative than Fred Thompson... unless Jeff Sessions runs in 2012.

[volsforever27]

Like stated before, his foreign policy attitude is nuts. I'm all for less government though.

[Rasputin_Vol]

Originally Posted by volsforever27

Like stated before, his foreign policy attitude is nuts. I'm all for less government though.

Keep in mind that our current president looked into the eyes of a former KGB agent and could see good in him. If that ain't nuts, I don't know what is.

Our current foreign policy is to prop up a dubious monarchy in Saudi Arabia, prop up a military dictator in Pakistan, handcuff the only ally between Moracco and Indonesia that has been able to mop the floor with these Middle Eastern countries despots(Israel), appease Western Europe/the UN, and have an open border to Mexico that not only threatens our middle class, but also is a gateway for possible WMDs/terrorists.

You're right... our current policy is flawless.

[volsforever27]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

Keep in mind that our current president looked into the eyes of a former KGB agent and could see good in him. If that ain't nuts, I don't know what is.

Our current foreign policy is to prop up a dubious monarchy in Saudi Arabia, prop up a military dictator in Pakistan, handcuff the only ally between Moracco and Indonesia that has been able to mop the floor with these Middle Eastern countries despots(Israel), appease Western Europe/the UN, and have an open border to Mexico that not only threatens our middle class, but also is a gateway for possible WMDs/terrorists.

You're right... our current policy is flawless.

I'm the last person to defend Bush anymore, but if you honestly think that the right policy to have is let Isreal stand by itself, then no offense you're crazier than he is. Just because Bush is wrong at times doesn't prove that Ron's policies are right.

[Rasputin_Vol]

Originally Posted by volsforever27

I'm the last person to defend Bush anymore, but if you honestly think that the right policy to have is let Isreal stand by itself, then no offense you're crazier than he is. Just because Bush is wrong at times doesn't prove that Ron's policies are right.

Oh, I'm not saying let Israel stand by itself, but what we have done over the past 35 or so (Since 1973 War) is handcuff Israel and forced them to broker deals with a terrorist organization (PLO/Arafat, R.I.P.). But Israel has shown the ability to mop the florr with the Arabs in every war they've been in without us having to put boots on the ground. And just like Israel bombed th Osiris (sp) Iraqi nuclear facility back around 1980 or so, they are more than able to handle a threat from that clown in Iran. Instead of us making Israel give up land that they won fair and square after the Arabs attacked them, we should be allowing them to defend themselves and doing what they need to do without us (or the UN) damaging their soverignty.

[Rasputin_Vol]

Originally Posted by volsforever27

I'm the last person to defend Bush anymore, but if you honestly think that the right policy to have is let Isreal stand by itself, then no offense you're crazier than he is. Just because Bush is wrong at times doesn't prove that Ron's policies are right.

He's been wrong more often than right over the last 7 years. Going into Iraq wasn't the problem. Going into Iraq without wanting to achieve victory at any and all costs is what I had a problem with. Appeasing the UN/Western Europe/liberals here in America by not allowing our troops to get information by any means necessary is where I have a problem. Taking the nuclear option off the table is where I have a problem (after those contractors were dragged through the streets of Fallujah and hung from a bridge reminiscent of Black Hawk Down, he should have given that town 3 days to turn over all those that are guilty or else turned that place into a sheet of glass in the desert). The liberals and UN are going to scream and whine anyways, so lets give them something to really whine about while at the same time givng our guys the ability to do their jobs without political strategies getting in the way. Petreus may have gotten things turned around in Iraq and this may be a moot point, but at the end of the day, it should have never gotten to the point it had gotten in late 2006/early 2007.

[Mullet Vol]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

With no other conservative on deck, you can look forward to 2 terms of Hillary. Nobody on deck or on the GOP bench is anymore conservative than Fred Thompson... unless Jeff Sessions runs in 2012.

From what I've heard and read the GOP's best chance is for Hillary to win the nomination.