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Old 02-18-2008, 06:40 PM   #106 (permalink)
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It's based upon the same worthless data set. No real journalist would try to pass this off as representative because it is not.
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:41 PM   #107 (permalink)
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It's based upon the same worthless data set. No real journalist would try to pass this off as representative because it is not.

Like I have said, what does it matter if Paul received the most donations?
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:43 PM   #108 (permalink)
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USATODAY.com - Troops in survey back Bush 4-to-1 over Kerry

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An unscientific survey of U.S. military personnel shows they support President Bush for re-election by a 4-to-1 ratio.
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:44 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Like I have said, what does it matter if Paul received the most donations?
I think it matters that a legitimate (???) news outlet is passing off as true the statement the Obama has had raised more money from soldiers than anyone else. I think that is a huge marketing boon for Obama if Americans believe the military establishment is firmly behind him.

The military establishment would prefer Kerry the turncoat over the likes of Obama.
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Like I have said, what does it matter if Paul received the most donations?
Guys, I'm not arguing that the military is full of liberals, I'm really not. All I have been asking since the begining of this discussion is why would ABC lie about this? I agree, the military is made up of more republican men and women, I have never argued that. I have not argued rather ABC was liberal biased or not, I simply have questioned their motives for reporting that Paul and Obama lead in donations. I would believe it to be true for the aspect of what they are reporting. It's a pretty weak story to lie about so you're right what does it matter enough to lie about?
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Guys, I'm not arguing that the military is full of liberals, I'm really not. All I have been asking since the begining of this discussion is why would ABC lie about this? I agree, the military is made up of more republican men and women, I have never argued that. I have not argued rather ABC was liberal biased or not, I simply have questioned their motives for reporting that Paul and Obama lead in donations. I would believe it to be true for the aspect of what they are reporting. It's a pretty weak story to lie about so you're right what does it matter enough to lie about?
ABC didn't make it up, they're the ones who decided it was newsworthy. They would report it because that's what they do. They would turn a blind eye to the pathetic nature of the data because their newsroom is full of sympathetic ears with no real voice of dissent.
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What does the military think about Wesley Clark or Colin Powell's favorable opinion of Barack Obama?
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ABC didn't make it up, they're the ones who decided it was newsworthy. They would report it because that's what they do. They would turn a blind eye to the pathetic nature of the data because their newsroom is full of sympathetic ears with no real voice of dissent.
OK, see I am wrong (I can admit it ) I thought it was an ABC story.
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What does the military think about Wesley Clark or Colin Powell's favorable opinion of Barack Obama?
probably pretty closely in line with what they think of the two Generals? It's not as highly as you apparently think.

Officers don't tend to take overly kindly to career politicians.
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I think it matters that a legitimate (???) news outlet is passing off as true the statement the Obama has had raised more money from soldiers than anyone else. I think that is a huge marketing boon for Obama if Americans believe the military establishment is firmly behind him.

The military establishment would prefer Kerry the turncoat over the likes of Obama.

Come on, you really think the military vote is a major player with the voting public?
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there's no doubt that false support helps quell some of the questions about the perceived weakness of Obama in military and international relations matters.
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:43 PM   #117 (permalink)
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there's no doubt that false support helps quell some of the questions about the perceived weakness of Obama in military and international relations matters.
I still don't see it because the military does not set our foreign policy.

I see where you are going but I don't think it is really that big a of a deal on the grand scheme of things.

It is like Bubba Clinton claiming he had vast experience with the military because he called out the national guard.

I mean really, if you believe that, then lord help us all.
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I still don't see it because the military does not set our foreign policy.

I see where you are going but I don't think it is really that big a of a deal on the grand scheme of things.

It is like Bubba Clinton claiming he had vast experience with the military because he called out the national guard.

I mean really, if you believe that, then lord help us all.
If I'm a fence sitter and concerned about Obama gutting the military as Clinton did, then I would certainly be swayed if I believed the Brass was behind Obama.

It's not the biggest deal in the world, but it is the reason that crap stories of this nature become news. I'm not wrapped around the axle about it, just answering the question about why ABC would print such stuff.
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:17 PM   #119 (permalink)
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Well I never, the military is 80% GOP kids!

Wrong

Most of the commanders who have served under Bush are Democrats...
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Whether you vote for Obama or McCain, you are getting a liberal. Or did this educated/informed group of posters not realilze McCain is considered a liberal.
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