Are Our Troops Going To Vote Obama!

[GAVol]

Originally Posted by jkell24

I don't remember a candidate with this good of a chance to win with less ties to big corporations.

...because corporations are the great Satan obviously.

[utvolpj]

Originally Posted by GAVol

...because corporations are the great Satan obviously.

*grumble grumble*...record profits...*grumble grumble*

[BigPapaVol]

I am astounded at the pathetic lineup of candidates on each side. By all sensible accounts, the Dems should annihilate the Repubs for the next 10 years, but the candidates they're putting forth and their party policies are more pathetic than ever.

The fact that this race is still being debated amazes me, but the Dems have the two least electable candidates in their history as frontrunners.

[615 Vol]

Originally Posted by myrobbins7

With less ties to big corporations? Ever heard of Berkshire Hathaway?

I don't know what the is for. Warren Buffett is a democrat from the midwest. He is the second richest man in the United States behind Bill Gates, another democrat. I suppose I should count Harpo productions as a major corporation in which is backing Obama or could it be Warren Buffett and Oprah Winfrey happen to like the guy. Most of these corporations play the "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" game but what is Buffett going to get out of this?

[allvol123]

Originally Posted by jkell24

I don't know what the is for. Warren Buffett is a democrat from the midwest. He is the second richest man in the United States behind Bill Gates, another democrat. I suppose I should count Harpo productions as a major corporation in which is backing Obama or could it be Warren Buffett and Oprah Winfrey happen to like the guy. Most of these corporations play the "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" game but what is Buffett going to get out of this?

So is Obama with big money now?

[615 Vol]

Originally Posted by allvol123

So is Obama with big money now?

Having rich friends and receiving kick backs are two different things. It's America, if Warren Buffett or Oprah Winfrey want to support a candidate or donate money they have the right to do so. Any of the candidates have that same right. I am talking about corporations that give money to a candidate for a favor in return.

"Clinton has received roughly $750,000 from PACs and more than $500,000 from lobbyists."

This is from an article titled: "Is Hillary Clinton a Corporate Stooge?"

Now, can you show the same thing for Barack Obama?

To answer your question, yes he is but to answer my question that had been misquoted no, he doesn't have near the loboyists or big corporate dollars that other candidates have.

[TennNC]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

I am astounded at the pathetic lineup of candidates on each side. By all sensible accounts, the Dems should annihilate the Repubs for the next 10 years, but the candidates they're putting forth and their party policies are more pathetic than ever.

The fact that this race is still being debated amazes me, but the Dems have the two least electable candidates in their history as frontrunners.

Worse candidates than Bush and Kerry?

I guess the voter turnout will tell us whether you're right or not.

BPV, if you were in charge of submitting candidates to run for the Dem nomination (with the best chance of winning the gen. election of course), who would you choose instead?

[allvol123]

Originally Posted by jkell24

Having rich friends and receiving kick backs are two different things. It's America, if Warren Buffett or Oprah Winfrey want to support a candidate or donate money they have the right to do so. Any of the candidates have that same right. I am talking about corporations that give money to a candidate for a favor in return.

"Clinton has received roughly $750,000 from PACs and more than $500,000 from lobbyists."

This is from an article titled: "Is Hillary Clinton a Corporate Stooge?"

Now, can you show the same thing for Barack Obama?

If you like him enough you can rationalize it any way you wish. I'd like to meet these people giving large sums of money and wanting nothing in return.

But to answer your question, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, Obama has raised plenty of money via PACs.

[myrobbins7]

Originally Posted by jkell24

I don't know what the is for. Warren Buffett is a democrat from the midwest. He is the second richest man in the United States behind Bill Gates, another democrat. I suppose I should count Harpo productions as a major corporation in which is backing Obama or could it be Warren Buffett and Oprah Winfrey happen to like the guy. Most of these corporations play the "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" game but what is Buffett going to get out of this?

Trust me, if Buffett invest in you, he wants something in return. The was because you brought up King Hal. and corp. dealing with the R. party. I was just pointing out that Obama has his hands in the cookie jar also, thats all.

[615 Vol]

Originally Posted by allvol123

If you like him enough you can rationalize it any way you wish. I'd like to meet these people giving large sums of mnoey and wanting nothing in return.
But to answer your question, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, Obama has raised plenty of money via PACs.

You do realize there is a cap on how much they can give? What Warren Buffett or Oprah Winfrey can give to Barack Obama is pocket change to them. I never said that Barack Obama didn't take P.A.C. money, I said that he has taken less money than any other candidate that has a shot at winning. He is doing more than any of the other candidates of trying to get the tainted money out of elections. He is pushing for campaign finance reform to keep the special interest out of it.

Barack Obama on Government Reform

[TennNC]

Originally Posted by myrobbins7

Trust me, if Buffett invest in you, he wants something in return. The was because you brought up King Hal. and corp. dealing with the R. party. I was just pointing out that Obama has his hands in the cookie jar also, thats all.

A philanthropist who takes a $100K salary and just gave away 83% of his wealth to charity, and a multinational company with more than $13 billion in govt contracts related to the Iraq war are different cookie jars, that's all.

[volinbham]

Obama simply hasn't been in national level politics long enough to have a long list of corporate backers.

Give it time - it will come.

[615 Vol]

Originally Posted by myrobbins7

Trust me, if Buffett invest in you, he wants something in return. The was because you brought up King Hal. and corp. dealing with the R. party. I was just pointing out that Obama has his hands in the cookie jar also, thats all.

Halliburton did some really bad things that anyone associated with them should be ashamed of. They did not play by the rules but thanks to Dick Cheney there were no rules. Is it fair for a taxpayer to buy these jerks a new truck and trailer just because one got a flat tire? They would blow these things up in the desert rather than replacing a tire. Why are taxpayers paying for these people to drive high dollar SUV's in Iraq for several times more than they even cost over here? I don't see how you could make a comparison with anyone to Halliburton. There's a warm place reserved for those people when they die. I'm sure it was hard for them to get bids when they were the only company bidding. Wonder why? What could Obama do for the second richest man in America? Have you heard about where Buffett lives? The guy doesn't even care about possessions. The 2nd richest man in america still lives in the house he bought for $31,500 thirty years ago. I guess Oprah wants to be assured that her show is aired during primetime or something? No comparison to Halliburton.

[615 Vol]

Hey all, I am heading back to the sports forum. I'd rather be on your side than arguing with you. I'd rather take on some bama troll than a fellow Vols fan. Politics are serious so they bring out the best in people but again I want to apoligize if I ticked anyone off in here today. Sometimes politics seem to be more of a sport than actual sports. Good Day.

[myrobbins7]

Gents, I think you took that the wrong way. Im just saying it is just not the R. party it's both. Just for the record, I could give a rats a$$ about Halliburton one way or the other. Hey, if Obama is your man then that's fine with me, he is just not mine.