University of Chicago drops ACT/SAT requirements

[Biopsyman]

University of Chicago drops SAT/ACT requirement

Not a good move....A kick in the stomach for those who are dedicated and put in the effort to be high achievers.

 

[Septic]

University of Chicago drops SAT/ACT requirement

Not a good move....A kick in the stomach for those who are dedicated and put in the effort to be high achievers.

Does academia trigger you? Let's be honest, isn't a high achieving progressive as equally worthless to you as an underachieving progressive?

Faux outrage imo.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

University of Chicago drops SAT/ACT requirement

Not a good move....A kick in the stomach for those who are dedicated and put in the effort to be high achievers.

Step in the right direction. Now we just need more schools to follow and high schools can stop teaching towards taking standardized tests.

 

[Rishvol]

Step in the right direction. Now we just need more schools to follow and high schools can stop teaching towards taking standardized tests.

Would love that. If a school wants to see what a student knows they should create their own entrance exam.

 

[Biopsyman]

Does academia trigger you? Let's be honest, isn't a high achieving progressive as equally worthless to you as an underachieving progressive?

Faux outrage imo.

I think this is similar to giving everyone a trophy or a ribbon there is no prize for the best or the top

 

[volsarelife1]

It's Chicago, the odds are they'll end up shooting somebody anyways. So I'm not sure that it matters.

 

[allvol123]

Makes sense. Most higher education these days is just a money grab. They just expanded their customer base.

 

[TN Ribs]

University of Chicago drops SAT/ACT requirement

Not a good move....A kick in the stomach for those who are dedicated and put in the effort to be high achievers.

Freedom of Choice. You don't like it, you can choose to go somewhere else. Funny how that works.

 

[Biopsyman]

Freedom of Choice. You don't like it, you can choose to go somewhere else. Funny how that works.

It’s another way to rebalance enrollment

 

[TNsnyper20]

Makes sense. Most higher education these days is just a money grab. They just expanded their customer base.

With exception to a few professions, this is the most accurate post I've read in awhile.

 

[114VOL]

I think this is similar to giving everyone a trophy or a ribbon there is no prize for the best or the top

There's absolutely NOTHING about this similar to the scenario you mentioned

 

[Roustabout]

Step in the right direction. Now we just need more schools to follow and high schools can stop teaching towards taking standardized tests.

How? Do you think students that get a 3.5 GPA at a variety of schools are all equally educated and qualified for college?

If you don't have stadandarized tests then how can you measure this?

 

[LouderVol]

How? Do you think students that get a 3.5 GPA at a variety of schools are all equally educated and qualified for college?

If you don't have stadandarized tests then how can you measure this?

entrance exam at the college.

even know you have placement exams, seems like you could take that and make it part of acceptance.

 

[n_huffhines]

How? Do you think students that get a 3.5 GPA at a variety of schools are all equally educated and qualified for college?

If you don't have stadandarized tests then how can you measure this?

Let them worry about it. Why are people so rankled by change?

 

[n_huffhines]

Makes sense. Most higher education these days is just a money grab. They just expanded their customer base.

This explanation makes no sense. If they wanted more students, they would simply stop turning so many away. Brilliant people get turned away from Chicago. They don't need to change their system to get more students.

 

[volkyries]

This change coupled with tons of people coming out of high school with inflated grades over 4.0 just doesn't make sense to me. I love how everyone cheers this using the reasoning that "people are not able to test well" which hurts them. I don't think I have really met someone who is actually above intelligent that "doesn't test well". Most seem to not test well because they don't know the information.

How do you decide to give scholarships, if everyone has the same GPA of 4.5 on a 4.0 scale? Essays? What about the good testers that don't write well.

Edit: I do like that they might eventually bust up the monopolies created by the testing organizations. The two tests are only given by those two organizations.

 

[Rishvol]

How? Do you think students that get a 3.5 GPA at a variety of schools are all equally educated and qualified for college?

If you don't have stadandarized tests then how can you measure this?

Each school create their own entrance exam duh

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

How? Do you think students that get a 3.5 GPA at a variety of schools are all equally educated and qualified for college?

If you don't have stadandarized tests then how can you measure this?

by color.

fire away.

 

[allvol123]

This explanation makes no sense. If they wanted more students, they would simply stop turning so many away. Brilliant people get turned away from Chicago. They don't need to change their system to get more students.

Here is some simple math for you.

A height of 1 is greater than a height of zero. Some people can't make it over 1, everyone can make it over zero.

You should send them an application now.

 

[n_huffhines]

I didn't have the ACT score to get into BYU out of HS, but I transferred there and saw all these kids who had scored 30+ on the ACT struggle in intro to econ. ST's serve a purpose, but I would be surprised if it's the best method for achieving that purpose.

 

[n_huffhines]

Here is some simple math for you.

A height of 1 is greater than a height of zero. Some people can't make it over 1, everyone can make it over zero.

You should send them an application now.

Your simple math probably applies to admissions at whatever CC you got your associates from, but demand is not a problem for Chicago.

 

[LouderVol]

I didn't have the ACT score to get into BYU out of HS, but I transferred there and saw all these kids who had scored 30+ on the ACT struggle in intro to econ. ST's serve a purpose, but I would be surprised if it's the best method for achieving that purpose.

high standardized tests scores only prove that you are good at taking standardized tests.

 

[Wafflestomper]

Tests tell you nothing about work ethic. You can be a great test-taker and still not succeed in college or life.

 

[Rifleman]

I didn't have the ACT score to get into BYU out of HS, but I transferred there and saw all these kids who had scored 30+ on the ACT struggle in intro to econ. ST's serve a purpose, but I would be surprised if it's the best method for achieving that purpose.

I used to prep kids for these tests. All they measure is the quality of your prep for the test.

The material they cover is insanely easy to game as these are standardized and multiple choice. It is not like you are taking boards for a medical specialty or something.

The newer computer adaptive tests are a little harder to prep for, but I could still get anyone who isn't functionally illiterate into the top quartile.

On the old paper test, I got one kid from a 980 to a 1520 on the SAT in 6 weeks. This was a kid who had never read a novel and couldn't differentiate a rhombus from an octagon as a high school junior.

The idea that his 1520 showed his true academic potential, or that prepping for the SAT somehow made him a fundamentally smarter? It actually makes me laugh.

What it probably most measured is the fact that his parents could afford to pay for test prep, and he simply showed up to said prep.

This change is long overdue.

 

[82_VOL_83]

University of Chicago drops SAT/ACT requirement

Not a good move....A kick in the stomach for those who are dedicated and put in the effort to be high achievers.

Simply means enrollment numbers are down. If enrollment was high, they would be raising their standards. Money play, pure and simple.