'No official intel' used to launch Russia probe

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REP. DEVIN NUNES, R,-CALIF., CHAIRMAN, HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: The counterintelligence investigation uses the tools of our intelligence services that are not supposed to be used on American citizens. So, we've long wanted to know, well, what intelligence did you have that actually led to this investigation? So, what we found now after the investigators have reviewed it is that in fact, there was no intelligence.

This is a deadly serious charge coming from the Intel Committee chairman. And remember, it was just a few days ago that the Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows, he made a similar claim and even suggested that the Obama administration played a key and vital role in kicking off the investigation into the Trump campaign. You can't make this up!!


REP. MARK MEADOWS, R, - N.C.: But we now see that the State Department and it appears with the White House at the very highest levels, including the president himself, were involved in this whole narrative of investigating Donald Trump. The messages, the text messages that I've had the privilege of reviewing and some of the other correlating information would strongly suggest that there was not only information given to the White House, but indeed that they were involved in directing some of the actions of the Department Justice and FBI in the -- in the fall of 2016.

That's troubling when you see one president allowing their DOJ to get involved in a political campaign.


Nunes: ‘No official intel’ used to launch Russia probe

Clinton advisers were 'pushing information' to State Department.
 
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The whole TrumPutin affair was a fantasy dreamed up the Democrats because they could not come to terms with Hillary not being elected.

History will not judge this farce kindly. The only people who still believe any of this nonsense are the ones who want it to be true.
 
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If Devin Nunes says it, it must be true.

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The whole TrumPutin affair was a fantasy dreamed up the Democrats because they could not come to terms with Hillary not being elected.

History will not judge this farce kindly. The only people who still believe any of this nonsense are the ones who want it to be true.

Perhaps, just perhaps, it goes deeper than an inability to come to terms with losing. Perhaps it is a criminally corrupt regime that were brazen in their corruption because they were convinced of a successor, and that the corruption would never be outed.

Perhaps this was and is the reason behind "Never Donald", at any cost.
 
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Regardless of what you think of Nunes there is no doubt that Team Clinton did feed information to the investigation via the dossier and long after the FBI had ceased it's relationship with Steele the State Dept. continued to feed his information to the FBI through back channels.

Definitely enough smoke to investigate.
 
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Perhaps, just perhaps, it goes deeper than an inability to come to terms with losing. Perhaps it is a criminally corrupt regime that were brazen in their corruption because they were convinced of a successor, and that the corruption would never be outed.

Perhaps this was and is the reason behind "Never Donald", at any cost.

We at the DNCC conspired and perveted the primary election process to ensure Sanders would not get the nomination. Our favored daughter, Hillary, broke national security protocol and law, destroyed evidence, and was operating a "pay for access to the White House charity". We worked hand in hand with national news during the presidential debates to ensure our candidate was delivered softballs to cast her in the most favorable light.
Everything we Democrats do is smoke & mirrors to deflect the electorates attention away from our own crimes and dealing from a position of self serving ill will.

If we keep up the big lie, our sheeple will never twig to it. We know this because they're so dumb and ignorant they can't access the internet or get down to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles to get a photo ID.
 
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Yep. You can take whatever he says straight to the bank. Could never be accused of being a Trump lackey.

He should probably file a frivolous civil lawsuit agaisnt the five eye governments for not sharing this relevant intel to support his subjective baseless claims. Wait I’m not doing this right. That’s the other side.
 
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Quoting Devin Nunes on anything related to this is just pathetic. Its the equivalent of starting a thread called "Its official: No collusion" and just parroting Trump tweets.

It is simply of no value.
 
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Quoting Devin Nunes on anything related to this is just pathetic. Its the equivalent of starting a thread called "Its official: No collusion" and just parroting Trump tweets.

It is simply of no value.

Yeah. Like “TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end.”
 
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So, is this more about the dossier or does this relate to the months of investigation prior?
 
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So, is this more about the dossier or does this relate to the months of investigation prior?

It’s about the Electronic Communication (EC), which was used to establish the opening of the FBI’s Russia -Trump Campaign counterintelligence probe, in July 2016.

Allegedly based on no ‘official’ intelligence, it appears like maybe diplomatic foreign channels and likely Blumenthal and Shearer ( Clintonites) funneling info thru State Dept (Clintonites/ Obamanites) channels.

It just smells real funny...meaning,

Strzok's emails indicate he traveled to London to interview Australian diplomats, apparently to confirm and vet Aussie concerns re statements made by Papadopolous. This was after the EC was issued opening a formal CI investigation. That would be putting the cart before the horse. Papadopolous himself wasn't interviewed by FBI until some 6 months later, after the election. These two facts alone show the FBI's rationale for opening a CI investigation of Trump's campaign to be utter bs. They can blather all they want, but their actions belie their concerns.

Now this gets a little hairy...the impression from Nunes' comment was that Five Eyes input, and other IC input, is not documented prior to the EC. Thus, the formal opening of an IC investigation has to be predicated on some relevant findings from our, or allied, intelligence agencies and this did not occur. There's obviously documentation afterwards, but the initial concern was based on information from DOS operatives, i.e drunk talk in a bar. And even there, if you're concerned a presidential candidate/transitional president is a Russian stooge, as of Jan 1 why have you failed to interrogate the initial source of your concern. It doesn't wash.

So here’s what Nunes’ said:

“[W]hat we found now, after investigators have reviewed it is that, in fact, there was no intelligence.” ..
“[We] are investigating the State Department, we think there are some major irregularities at the State Department, and we’re trying to figure out how this information about Papadopoulos, of all people, who was supposedly met with some folks in London, how that made it across to the FBI’s hands.”

So you have Maria Bartiromo, host of Fox Sunday Futures, who expressed amazement: “You’re telling us that in order for the FBI and DoJ to launch an investigation into so-called collusion between Trump and the Russians, there was no intelligence used? Then I don’t understand. How did this investigation start?” Good question! Nunes responded:

I think that is the point. We don’t understand, we’ve never understood. We don’t have access to these finished intelligence products, and we’ve never seen one. We thought maybe one Maria Bartiromo expressed amazement: “You’re telling us that in order for the FBI and DoJ to launch an investigation into so-called collusion between Trump and the Russians, there was no intelligence used? Then I don’t understand. How did this investigation start?” Good question! Nunes responded:

I think that is the point. We don’t understand, we’ve never understood. We don’t have access to these finished intelligence products, and we’ve never seen one. We thought maybe one went through a different channel that was kept really quiet… well, in fact, after our investigators reviewed this, that is not what happened. There was no Five Eyes intelligence product, as has been reported. There was no product. And I think that is a major problem…

At the highest level, what is this about? A counterintelligence operation that was at the height of the political campaign, where you opened up an investigation, using these intelligence services to spy on the other campaign, it is really serious stuff…

I can tell you we now longtime associates of Hillary Clinton, including Sidney Blumenthal and Corey Shearer, were actively giving information to the State Dept. that was making its way to the FBI… So we know this from at least from two witnesses, and so we’re trying to piece all that together.

There was no official intelligence that was used to start this investigation, we know that Sidney Blumenthal and others were pushing information into the State Department. We’re trying to piece all of that together… through a different channel that was kept really quiet… well, in fact, after our investigators reviewed this, that is not what happened. There was no Five Eyes intelligence product, as has been reported. There was no product. And I think that is a major problem…

At the highest level, what is this about? A counterintelligence operation that was at the height of the political campaign, where you opened up an investigation, using these intelligence services to spy on the other campaign, it is really serious stuff…

I can tell you we know longtime associates of Hillary Clinton, including Sidney Blumenthal and Corey Shearer, were actively giving information to the State Dept. that was making its way to the FBI… So we know this from at least from two witnesses, and so we’re trying to piece all that together.

There was no official intelligence that was used to start this investigation, we know that Sidney Blumenthal and others were pushing information into the State Department. We’re trying to piece all of that together…
 
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Nunes had this emailed to him by the White House and then he went to the White House to present it to them as an important discovery.

It's kind of his thing.
 
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Wow, if true. Wow.

Total speculation here, but...

The fact that Nunes has just received this information means that the DOJ is done using it. Which means that the grand jury is likely complete, and indictments are sealed. There have been no leaks.

This is all coming to a head--probably in the coming weeks. Certainly prior to IG Horowitz speaking to congress on May 8.

We will see what Jeff Sessions, Horowitz and Huber have been doing over the last 12 months. It's going to be magnificent and tragic...or maybe nothing.
 
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Nunes had this emailed to him by the White House and then he went to the White House to present it to them as an important discovery.

It's kind of his thing.

Speaking of Nunes and the White House.

Too bad Obama and his White House didn’t listen to Nunes when he warned of Russia meddling.
 
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Speaking of Nunes and the White House.

Too bad Obama and his White House didn’t listen to Nunes when he warned of Russia meddling.

It was all baked in the cake. Turn a blind eye so, in the event Trump wins, they can crow like banty roosters on a pile of **** about why douchery lost. (Read: Russia collusion, pee pee whores, Russia collusion, ice cream, Stormy.... did I say Russia collusion?)

Why would they point the finger before 11/8/16? They wouldn’t. It would’ve thwarted their plan and the cake would’ve certainly burned, just as it did in the wee hours of election night. At that point, a tanker of vagisil couldn’t have cured the burn, when it was inevitably apparent they got their asses handed to them.

And here we are.....
 
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Speaking of Nunes and the White House.

Too bad Obama and his White House didn’t listen to Nunes when he warned of Russia meddling.

Obama didn't think the Russians were going to actually interfere with voting by dead people and such, so no worries. What did get the Dims stirred up (after their favorite and favored witch lost) is that the Russians had apparently tried some feeble attempts to influence hearts and minds - nothing even close to Soros tactics designed to silence the opposition. Not that US has ever run ad campaigns (and more) during elections in other countries.
 
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