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Old 10-12-2017, 04:52 PM   #91
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Nothing stopping you from seeing a witch doctor if you're willing to pay.
That's not true. They can't practice medicine legally. So the government is stopping me.
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That's not true. They can't practice medicine legally. So the government is stopping me.
BS. You can see whoever you want if you pay.
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BS. You can see whoever you want if you pay.
I feel like you don't understand licensing.
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I feel like you don't understand licensing.
Not hard to understand the free market. If you want to see a witch doctor, you pay him, he sees you. Government doesn't stop you. I pay out of pocket to see providers not in my network. If I want to see a witch doctor or counseling from a Wiccan, I pay them. Licensing doesn't have a thing to do with it.
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Remember Obama said if you like your doctor ...
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Has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion. Appears that his premise was that the government or his insurance company wouldn't let him see a witch doctor. That is absurd. If you are willing to pay the fee, you can see whoever you want, licensed or unlicensed, nobody is stopping you if that's what you want. Unless you want the government to include witch doctors as minimal essential benefits.
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Almost all local and state government business is public - so? Not only is it usually open to the public, you have open meetings and open records laws, again so?

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That is why you have stuff like this going on in Tennessee, against the wishes of the locals.
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Being public has no bearing on anything, not really.
so you are going with people don't know zoning. gotcha. its a tool like anything else, just because you don't know how to use it and someone else takes advantage doesn't make it a bad tool.
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Here is Sumner County a company purchased some land with the intention of operating a quarry and cement plant. The land is zoned for the intended use.

Well guess what? The permits were denied after heavy pressure from the nearest quarry operator and the two ready mix plants. The local judge who heard the appeal is quoted in court saying "as long as I'm a judge there will not be a quarry there. I don't care what it's zoned for".

Maybe in a large city this doesn't come to play often but it sure does in some of the smaller towns.
like I said, want the name of a good lawyer? I doubt we work with anyone in the area but it wouldn't be to hard to find someone who would work the case.

and thats not a case of zoning failing. thats a case of government failing. in particular the judiciary. what you described actually flies in the face of ZONING keeping competition down.
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A lot of times those local business owners form your business bureau too.
no really? It should totally be John Doe farmer who knows nothing about business running the Business bureau.
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I feel like you don't understand licensing.
I don't think you understand what is being said.

Nothing stopping you from seeing a witch doctor about your health. only thing being stopped is that witch doctor working or advertising as a medical professional.

just like me I can't advertise or sell my work as "architecture", I am not licensed. I can do everything an architect can except stamp drawings. I can work on someone's house no problem, nothing stopping that interaction. Heck I can do a full set of drawings on any project I want, you would just have to find someone willing to stamp it to get it approved, and there is plenty of that too.
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Not hard to understand the free market. If you want to see a witch doctor, you pay him, he sees you. Government doesn't stop you. I pay out of pocket to see providers not in my network. If I want to see a witch doctor or counseling from a Wiccan, I pay them. Licensing doesn't have a thing to do with it.
They cannot legally practice medicine without a license. Your witch doctor will not get a license.
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They cannot legally practice medicine without a license. Your witch doctor will not get a license.
It's your witch doctor. Pay him.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:14 PM   #103
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The more things government gets their hands on, the more it screws up. Trying to fix the absolute **** pile that was the ACA is way beyond one president. Obama did his best to screw the American people. He succeeded.
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Has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion. Appears that his premise was that the government or his insurance company wouldn't let him see a witch doctor. That is absurd. If you are willing to pay the fee, you can see whoever you want, licensed or unlicensed, nobody is stopping you if that's what you want. Unless you want the government to include witch doctors as minimal essential benefits.
This is not completely true. There are doctors that will not see you if you dont have insurance. Regardless of what you offer to pay. Also, sometimes you cannot see any type of specialist without having insurance.

The free market is not the answer. Its far too late for that.
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I will. Until he goes to jail.
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