Chancellor Angela Merkel wins a 4th term.

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"Exit poll shows Chancellor Merkel's CDU/CSU alliance has won the most seats in the federal election, with 32.5% of the vote.

In a shock result, according to the projection, the right-wing nationalist AfD will win 13.5% and will enter the Bundestag for the first time."

Merkel will become the longest-serving German Chancellor over taking Helmut Kohl.

The AfD will become the 1st Far-Right Party to enter the Bundestag (parliament) since WWII.
 
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Oh good lord, what makes the AfD a "far-right" party? They stand for the idea of an independent German state and stricter immigration and border controls what is so radical about that? The only major thing I somewhat oppose is their stance on same-sex marriage only because I don't believe government should be involved in supporting marriage of any type. With that said, the only coalition Merkel could hope to achieve is through the Left and Alliance90/Greens route. The SPD and FDP have ruled out forming a coalition with her.
 
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Oh good lord, what makes the AfD a "far-right" party? They stand for the idea of an independent German state and stricter immigration and border controls what is so radical about that? The only major thing I somewhat oppose is their stance on same-sex marriage only because I don't believe government should be involved in supporting marriage of any type. With that said, the only coalition Merkel could hope to achieve is through the Left and Alliance90/Greens route. The SPD and FDP have ruled out forming a coalition with her.
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That's the media narrative. Surely not the first time you've seen this. Anyone to the right of them is far right. It's about moving the goal posts
 
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Oh good lord, what makes the AfD a "far-right" party? They stand for the idea of an independent German state and stricter immigration and border controls what is so radical about that? The only major thing I somewhat oppose is their stance on same-sex marriage only because I don't believe government should be involved in supporting marriage of any type. With that said, the only coalition Merkel could hope to achieve is through the Left and Alliance90/Greens route. The SPD and FDP have ruled out forming a coalition with her.
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There is no difference between Le Pen's National Front and the German AfD. Both are far right groups.
 
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AfD is the 2nd largest party in the former East Germany, 4th largest in West Germany.

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As Bellwether noted last week, Germany’s electorate is tired of being lectured about the country’s duty to take in undocumented refugees from the Middle East and Africa. On Sunday, voters made their feelings clear by giving unprecedented support to the anti-immigrant party, Alternative for Germany, known by the acronym AfD.

By winning 13 percent of the vote in Sunday’s federal elections, the AfD will, for the first time, send avowedly right-wing politicians to the German Bundestag – a shocking turn of events in a country that, even 70 years later, wrestles with its Nazi past.

While Angela Merkel will no doubt continue as chancellor for a fourth term, she will need the support of two smaller parties, the pro-business Free Democrats, and, paradoxically, the environmentalist Green Party, to hold power. The left-wing Social Democrats, who have in the past joined Merkel’s Christian Democrats in a so-called Grand Coalition, announced Sunday that they would move into opposition against the government. The Social Democrats turned in their worst result in the post-World War II era, or what its leader bemoaned as a “bitter day.”

But there’s no doubt, the AfD’s support is mostly due to Merkel’s stubborn insistence that taking in migrants from majority-Islamic countries like Syria is part of Germany’s responsibility as the driving force in Europe. Even when some of those immigrants attacked and sexually molested several women in Cologne two years ago, Merkel said her support for welcoming newcomers would continue. On Sunday, she paid a heavy political price for those views, losing 20 percent of the support her party enjoyed in the last elections in 2013.
 
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golfballs said:
That's the media narrative. Surely not the first time you've seen this. Anyone to the right of them is far right. It's about moving the goal posts
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Exaclty, if you're anywhere in the center, the press calls you far right.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
As Bellwether noted last week, Germany’s electorate is tired of being lectured about the country’s duty to take in undocumented refugees from the Middle East and Africa. On Sunday, voters made their feelings clear by giving unprecedented support to the anti-immigrant party, Alternative for Germany, known by the acronym AfD.

By winning 13 percent of the vote in Sunday’s federal elections, the AfD will, for the first time, send avowedly right-wing politicians to the German Bundestag – a shocking turn of events in a country that, even 70 years later, wrestles with its Nazi past.

While Angela Merkel will no doubt continue as chancellor for a fourth term, she will need the support of two smaller parties, the pro-business Free Democrats, and, paradoxically, the environmentalist Green Party, to hold power. The left-wing Social Democrats, who have in the past joined Merkel’s Christian Democrats in a so-called Grand Coalition, announced Sunday that they would move into opposition against the government. The Social Democrats turned in their worst result in the post-World War II era, or what its leader bemoaned as a “bitter day.”

But there’s no doubt, the AfD’s support is mostly due to Merkel’s stubborn insistence that taking in migrants from majority-Islamic countries like Syria is part of Germany’s responsibility as the driving force in Europe. Even when some of those immigrants attacked and sexually molested several women in Cologne two years ago, Merkel said her support for welcoming newcomers would continue. On Sunday, she paid a heavy political price for those views, losing 20 percent of the support her party enjoyed in the last elections in 2013.
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Returning her and her party to power is an odd way for a country to show they are tired of something.
 
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Ever want to know what a Hillary Presidency would look like?

Just look at what Merkel did to Germany.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
As Bellwether noted last week, Germany’s electorate is tired of being lectured about the country’s duty to take in undocumented refugees from the Middle East and Africa. On Sunday, voters made their feelings clear by giving unprecedented support to the anti-immigrant party, Alternative for Germany, known by the acronym AfD.

By winning 13 percent of the vote in Sunday’s federal elections, the AfD will, for the first time, send avowedly right-wing politicians to the German Bundestag – a shocking turn of events in a country that, even 70 years later, wrestles with its Nazi past.

While Angela Merkel will no doubt continue as chancellor for a fourth term, she will need the support of two smaller parties, the pro-business Free Democrats, and, paradoxically, the environmentalist Green Party, to hold power. The left-wing Social Democrats, who have in the past joined Merkel’s Christian Democrats in a so-called Grand Coalition, announced Sunday that they would move into opposition against the government. The Social Democrats turned in their worst result in the post-World War II era, or what its leader bemoaned as a “bitter day.”

But there’s no doubt, the AfD’s support is mostly due to Merkel’s stubborn insistence that taking in migrants from majority-Islamic countries like Syria is part of Germany’s responsibility as the driving force in Europe. Even when some of those immigrants attacked and sexually molested several women in Cologne two years ago, Merkel said her support for welcoming newcomers would continue. On Sunday, she paid a heavy political price for those views, losing 20 percent of the support her party enjoyed in the last elections in 2013.
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Look for the right groups to also be moving closer to Moscow and the new Silk Road/China...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Wait... I'll give you WWII, but you're going to really pin Germany with WWI?
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Of course. Without German support the Austria-Hungarians wouldn't have started the operation against the Serbs that lead to the start of the first World War.
 
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Of course. Without German support the Austria-Hungarians wouldn't have started the operation against the Serbs that lead to the start of the first World War.
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Wait... all of Europe had intermingling alliances at that time. That was how it was able to escalate so rapidly in a short amount of time.

WWI is far more complicated than you are wanting to make it out. All of Europe was basically a stick of dynamite waiting for a match.
 
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Merkel = intelligent, articulate, sophisticated leader.

Trump = unintelligent, racist, narcissistic loudmouth.
 
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Madscientistvol said:
Most people don't understand WWI.
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Oh I've studied it but do you honestly think that Austria-Hungary would have started the Serbian campaign, knowing it would draw them into a war with the allies, if they knew they didn't have the backing of Germany? I highly doubt it to be honest. Even if they did I don't think it would have reached the scale it did without the involvement of Germany. So yeah, Germany does have some blame for the start of WWI.
 
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