The Myth of the Declining Middle Class

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People should be relieved by this data, but rather than accepting it, will probably resist and continue to perpetuate this myth for political gain.

Everybody is getting richer!

the size of the upper middle class grew from 12.9 percent of the population in 1979 to 29.4 percent in 2014. In other words, lots of Americans have moved from the middle-middle class to the upper middle class.

Between 1979 and 2014, U.S. GDP (in 2009 dollars) grew from $6.503 to $16.151 trillion. Roughly, the absolute amount of the GDP going to poor Americans rose from $480 to $580 billion; the lower middle class saw an increase from $1 to $1.2 trillion; and the middle middle class portion went from $3 to $4.2 trillion. The huge shift occurred for those fortunate American families whose inflation-adjusted incomes were greater than $100,000 per year. In absolute terms, the upper middle income portion of the GDP rose from $2 to $8.4 trillion; and the rich saw an increase from $260 billion to $1.8 trillion.

Rose speculates that "people in the middle class interact more with the upper middle class than they do with the very rich, and they may have stronger feelings of losing ground to the upper middle class versus their feelings about the inequality due to the huge income increases of those in the top one-tenth of 1 percent of the income ladder."

In other words, discontent over rising inequality may stem from envy among the middle class as they see the incomes of their upper middle class neighbors rising steeply.

Myth of the Declining Middle Class - Hit & Run : Reason.com
 
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comparing it in absolute dollars literally makes no sense. By definition, being low, middle, or upper, is all relative.

Dumb article.

WTF?

So wealth is relative, not absolute? It doesn't matter how comfortable you are, it's how comfortable you are compared to others?

So if we're all eating dog food, the world is cool!
 
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WTF?

So wealth is relative, not absolute? It doesn't matter how comfortable you are, it's how comfortable you are compared to others?

So if we're all eating dog food, the world is cool!

In determining wealth it doesn't matter how much money you make it's how much money you keep. Can't build wealth or move up the class scale when everything you bring in goes right back out the door in expenses and taxes.
 
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In determining wealth it doesn't matter how much money you make it's how much money you keep. Can't build wealth or move up the class scale when everything you bring in goes right back out the door in expenses and taxes.

#day1stuff
 
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In determining wealth it doesn't matter how much money you make it's how much money you keep. Can't build wealth or move up the class scale when everything you bring in goes right back out the door in expenses and taxes.

You're laying the foundation for democratic/socialist economic thinking. Keep going.
 
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Huff,
Does the article outline the percent growth in middle class and lower middle class as it does the upper middle?

NVM. I found it.

The percentage of American families with incomes over $356,000 grew from 0.1 percent in 1979 to 1.8 percent in 2014. Meanwhile during that period the percent of Americans in the middle-middle class, the lower middle class and the poor fell from 38.8 to 32 percent, 23.9 to 17.1 percent and 23.4 to 19.8 percent respectively.




Disregard this punctuation --->?
 
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The percentage of American families with incomes over $356,000 grew from 0.1 percent in 1979 to 1.8 percent in 2014. Meanwhile during that period the percent of Americans in the middle-middle class, the lower middle class and the poor fell from 38.8 to 32 percent, 23.9 to 17.1 percent and 23.4 to 19.8 percent respectively.

Yeah, so the upper middle class went from 12.9% to 29.4% and those gains came from people moving on up out of the lower-middle, and middle-middle.
 
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Yeah, so the upper middle class went from 12.9% to 29.4% and those gains came from people moving on up out of the lower-middle, and middle-middle.

The UMC grew 19.5% because middle and lower class moved into that group.
MC and LMC fell by about 14%.
 
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The UMC grew 19.5% because middle and lower class moved into that group.
MC and LMC fell by about 14%.

That's quite a bit of income mobility, if you ask me. It's supposed to be the knock on capitalism that the rich get richer and the poor stay poor, but this data shows everybody gets richer, and the wealthy income segments are growing in population.

:pepper:
 
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The guy citing data and graphs which only take into account the gross and not the net.

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That's quite a bit of income mobility, if you ask me. It's supposed to be the knock on capitalism that the rich get richer and the poor stay poor, but this data shows everybody gets richer, and the wealthy income segments are growing in population.

:pepper:

You still do not understand wealth I see.
 
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