KPD Police Chief(David Rausch) On Body Cams

[Coug]

Off-screen disagreements: No plans for KPD body cams

"KPD said it was unable to provide an on-camera interview on Tuesday with Chief David Rausch because he is named as a party in the pending lawsuits. However, Rausch has repeatedly expressed concerns about body cameras violating citizens' privacy."

Discuss...

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

True. Citizens don't want to be the stars in viral video getting jacked up by LEO.

 

[n_huffhines]

Haha. Violation of privacy

 

[TheDeeble]

Haha. Violation of privacy

Yea, but his next sentence in the article is

Until the Legislature makes a move towards changing our privacy laws, I have a concern about body cameras.

I don't know the laws he's mentioning but there may be some merit to his concern with respect to locals laws. The ACLU (I don't think would be viewed as pro-cops) held concerns about privacy/body cams .(but were still proponents overall of body cams)
https://www.aclu.org/police-body-mounted-cameras-right-policies-place-win-all

 

[n_huffhines]

body cams are everywhere now. I don't see why the aclu would pick on Knoxville

 

[Coug]

The example he gave was that if one of his officers had to enter your home, whoever was in there, whatever was going on in there would be on film. That's a bull**** excuse when those very specific incidences would be few and far between. You're talking serving warrants, or police entering a residence to aid someone in trouble.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Cop shouldn't be entering a citizen's home... but if it happens the camera should be recording for protection of the residents as well as the LEO.

 

[davethevol]

Methinks he doth protest too much.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Cop shouldn't be entering a citizen's home... but if it happens the camera should be recording for protection of the residents as well as the LEO.

:question: I thought this was the sole purpose of what body cameras were for to begin with?

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

:question: I thought this was the sole purpose of what body cameras were for to begin with?

But the chief wants them turned off

 

[n_huffhines]

The example he gave was that if one of his officers had to enter your home, whoever was in there, whatever was going on in there would be on film. That's a bull**** excuse when those very specific incidences would be few and far between. You're talking serving warrants, or police entering a residence to aid someone in trouble.

Yeah, as I understand it, footage only becomes a matter of public record if there is an incident. Also, if there is a warrant, than privacy is no longer guaranteed.

Going to be a lot less family dogs shot.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Cameras are more for the cops protection than anything else considering how batsh!! crazy people act around LEO.

 

[n_huffhines]

Cameras are more for the cops protection than anything else considering how batsh!! crazy people act around LEO.

You sure about that?

There are about 1100 people killed by police every year....only about 850 are in the line of duty and not all of those are justifiable....so we're talking probably at least a 300 unjustifiable deaths a year.

Only about 100-150 cops die each year, and a lot of those are car accidents, etc.

Another (Much Higher) Count Of Homicides By Police | FiveThirtyEight

National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund: Officer Deaths by Year

 

[FLVOL_79]

You sure about that?

There are about 1100 people killed by police every year....only about 850 are in the line of duty and not all of those are justifiable....so we're talking probably at least a 300 unjustifiable deaths a year.

Only about 100-150 cops die each year, and a lot of those are car accidents, etc.

Another (Much Higher) Count Of Homicides By Police | FiveThirtyEight

National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund: Officer Deaths by Year

Yep..cuz if you are that type of situation with LEO you got issues.

If I can go 35 years without an LEO incident..anyone can.

 

[MercyPercy]

Yep..cuz if you are that type of situation with LEO you got issues.

If I can go 35 years without an LEO incident..anyone can.

You're right, everyone who's ever had a bad encounter with the police absolutely deserved whatever they got.

Geez, what a boot licker.

 

[FLVOL_79]

You're right, everyone who's ever had a bad encounter with the police absolutely deserved whatever they got.

Geez, what a boot licker.

Not all but most. The thing is people have a hard time accepting their own faults thus concocting an idea that the situation was not their fault. It all ties in to the whole entitlement mentality in this country.

 

[n_huffhines]

Yep..cuz if you are that type of situation with LEO you got issues.

If I can go 35 years without an LEO incident..anyone can.

So much false logic in this post.

 

[n_huffhines]

Not all but most. The thing is people have a hard time accepting their own faults thus concocting an idea that the situation was not their fault. It all ties in to the whole entitlement mentality in this country.

You're all over the place.

 

[n_huffhines]

So when a cop has the wrong house and shoots the family dog, the family is made because they are entitled?

 

[FLVOL_79]

So when a cop has the wrong house and shoots the family dog, the family is made because they are entitled?

Dog should have known better imho

 

[LouderVol]

You sure about that?

There are about 1100 people killed by police every year....only about 850 are in the line of duty and not all of those are justifiable....so we're talking probably at least a 300 unjustifiable deaths a year.

Only about 100-150 cops die each year, and a lot of those are car accidents, etc.

Another (Much Higher) Count Of Homicides By Police | FiveThirtyEight

National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund: Officer Deaths by Year

No **** more civilians are killed by cops than vise versa. There are 100+ times the numbers of civilians than cops. Right or wrong when a cop takes action he is more trained in that field of doing damage than a civilian is. So they are also more "efficient" at what can easily be terrible actions. Also the reverse is true, cops are trained to deal with civilians so when attacked they know what to do, in theory. Which is more than a civilian knows. In lieu of propper training civilians should go along with the cops commands. Can't wait to see you guys have fun with that comment. Ever hear the expression "sometimes its better to keep your mouth shut and let someone think you are a fool, than to open it and confirm what everyone thinks"? In this case the cops are trained and know how to keep their mouths shut, except for the cases you gladly point out. Civilians will act the fool/dangerous and confirm what the cops are taught.

I like how common sense is equated to boot licking, while assault on officers is considered standing up for your rights. I use the term assault because several of the anti cop crowd throw it around too much.

 

[n_huffhines]

No **** more civilians are killed by cops than vise versa. There are 100+ times the numbers of civilians than cops.

damn, that's the stupidest **** I've read all week, forget about the rest of it.

 

[Carl Pickens]

damn, that's the stupidest **** I've read all week, forget about the rest of it.

Now Huff...... You're just acting like a b**** now..... You know good and well the point he was making

 

[LouderVol]

damn, that's the stupidest **** I've read all week, forget about the rest of it.

How many cops do you interact with on a daily basis, or the average Joe. For me its about 2. How many civilians does a cop interact with daily? In Atlanta, hundreds. And you are shocked the group dealing with the masses has a higher hit rate? More chances something goes wrong. Yes there are scumbag cops who need to face penalties, no doubt. Just saying I wouldn't put myself in their place and expect to do noticeably better

 

[n_huffhines]

Now Huff...... You're just acting like a b**** now..... You know good and well the point he was making

I know what his point was and it's completely invalid.