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...black males age 15-19 were 21 times more likely to be fatally shot by law enforcement than white males of the same age....federal statistics on police killings rely heavily on self-reporting from individual police departments — many of whom don’t even bother to fill out the paperwork.We don’t really know the number of people killed by police.
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Black teens killed by police more often than white teens | Rare
 
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So basically black youths are more prone to violence, crime, and encounters with law enforcement?
 
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black youths kill more black youths in Chicago alone than all US police departments combined
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
So basically black youths are more prone to violence, crime, and encounters with law enforcement?
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Do you think they're 21x more prone?

They are more likely to have encounters with law enforcement, but whether or not that's justified is the real question. Look at the war on drugs. The large majority of those that violate drug policy are white, and the large majority of those incarcerated for violation of drug policy are minorities.

No wonder they are 21x more likely to be shot. We tend to only go after white kids when there are no minorities.
 
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MG1968 said:
black youths kill more black youths in Chicago alone than all US police departments combined
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I blame the war on drugs and the war on poverty, so I stand by my post. What were black on black crime rates in Chicago in the 1950s?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Do you think they're 21x more prone?

They are more likely to have encounters with law enforcement, but whether or not that's justified is the real question. Look at the war on drugs. The large majority of those that violate drug policy are white, and the large majority of those incarcerated for violation of drug policy are minorities.

No wonder they are 21x more likely to be shot. We tend to only go after white kids when there are no minorities.
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Different groups of people act differently. Different actions render different consequences.
 
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Blacks are much more likely to commit Crimes. Has been so for a long long Time.

Many Reds simply Refuse to acknowledge what every reasonably thinking person sees every day, all across the World.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Blacks are much more likely to be reported for commit Crimes. Has been so for a long long Time.

Many Reds simply Refuse to acknowledge what every reasonably thinking person sees every day, all across the World.
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FYP. Millions of white people use and are in possession of drugs every day, and they are not reported/caught.

Say you are just talking violent crime....21x more likely? Where is your data?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Do you think they're 21x more prone?

They are more likely to have encounters with law enforcement, but whether or not that's justified is the real question. Look at the war on drugs. The large majority of those that violate drug policy are white, and the large majority of those incarcerated for violation of drug policy are minorities.

No wonder they are 21x more likely to be shot. We tend to only go after white kids when there are no minorities.
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You've never watched Cops have you? I bet you also grew up in an all white area.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
You've never watched Cops have you? I bet you also grew up in an all white area.
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What we see on cops is insignificant in relation to this discussion, because I'm saying they are more likely to be targeted by cops.

I grew up in Oak Ridge, TN which is about 10% black.
 
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n_huffhines said:
What we see on cops is insignificant in relation to this discussion, because I'm saying they are more likely to be targeted by cops.

I grew up in Oak Ridge, TN which is about 10% black.
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Everyone on this board knows that You are more Watchful when you are approached by a couple of black Dudes.
 
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I've said before that my 2 little sisters are black. In many ways they are "whiter" than me in the stereotypical sense. They grew up in rural Tenn after my parents moved back there mostly and listen to country music, speak flawless english etc. I grew up in charlotte and hung out mostly with the guys i played football with. We listened to gangsta rap (tupac biggie outkast snoop etc.) and to my embarrassment i used to speak with a lot of ghetto slang as a teen. that was 20 years ago and i couldn't be more different now. The way i behaved and spoke etc. was largely due to who i chose to run with and where i hung out. Teens, moreso than adults; tend to be products of their environments.

I think the culture within the black community will have to change radically and stay that way for a generation or 2 before these statistics begin to really change. Sadly with almost 70% of black kids not having a father in the home there is a huge vacuum of rolemodels and discipline. The black guys i ran with chose exactly who you would think as their role models: athletes, rappers, etc. While i can't fault athletes much gangsta rap is the absolute opposite of what a good parent wants their child to emulate or idolize. Every song is about "dope, hoes, and paper"...they have absolutely no respect for women and glorify selling dope and pimping on the street.

While any logical adult can look at the 17 year old kid slingin crack on the corner andknow that that road only ends 2 places (prison and the graveyard)...it has to be hard to come up in a bad neighborhood where mom is dirtfloor poor and see the kid on the corner who makes a couple grand a week easy. Many good guys fall into the trap of selling drugs and end up with multiple felonies or death.

As long as the liberal policies are in place to reward absent fathers, AND black culture continues to find the concept of a "baby mama" acceptable....there will be no progress in the black community as a whole. Sure, there are government policies that try to hold the black vote hostage (damn libs) but until the black community stops blaming others and takes responsibility for their own actions as individuals and as communities. Young men need to keep it in their pants or use protection. young ladies need to stay pure or use protection. People need to take back their neighborhoods by working with police to send the message that drug trade is not acceptable where they live. More positive role models need to take the chance and try to be an example and mentor for the youth in their communities etc. The race card is beyond played out as the first excuse for any failure or outright crime by blacks. No black person alive today even has a living relative that was ever a slave. We are just about to the point where none have a relative that was ever discriminated against before the civil rights movement of the 60s...its time to quit beating that dead horse and man up and make something out of themselves. Unfortunately Barry has set race relations back at least 20 years with his bullcrap, so right now blacks are a little leery i think. There are a lot of people like me out there though that refuse to be caught up in the divisive rhetoric from the pres and the MSM
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
I've said before that my 2 little sisters are black. In many ways they are "whiter" than me in the stereotypical sense. They grew up in rural Tenn after my parents moved back there mostly and listen to country music, speak flawless english etc. I grew up in charlotte and hung out mostly with the guys i played football with. We listened to gangsta rap (tupac biggie outkast snoop etc.) and to my embarrassment i used to speak with a lot of ghetto slang as a teen. that was 20 years ago and i couldn't be more different now. The way i behaved and spoke etc. was largely due to who i chose to run with and where i hung out. Teens, moreso than adults; tend to be products of their environments.

I think the culture within the black community will have to change radically and stay that way for a generation or 2 before these statistics begin to really change. Sadly with almost 70% of black kids not having a father in the home there is a huge vacuum of rolemodels and discipline. The black guys i ran with chose exactly who you would think as their role models: athletes, rappers, etc. While i can't fault athletes much gangsta rap is the absolute opposite of what a good parent wants their child to emulate or idolize. Every song is about "dope, hoes, and paper"...they have absolutely no respect for women and glorify selling dope and pimping on the street.

While any logical adult can look at the 17 year old kid slingin crack on the corner andknow that that road only ends 2 places (prison and the graveyard)...it has to be hard to come up in a bad neighborhood where mom is dirtfloor poor and see the kid on the corner who makes a couple grand a week easy. Many good guys fall into the trap of selling drugs and end up with multiple felonies or death.

As long as the liberal policies are in place to reward absent fathers, AND black culture continues to find the concept of a "baby mama" acceptable....there will be no progress in the black community as a whole. Sure, there are government policies that try to hold the black vote hostage (damn libs) but until the black community stops blaming others and takes responsibility for their own actions as individuals and as communities. Young men need to keep it in their pants or use protection. young ladies need to stay pure or use protection. People need to take back their neighborhoods by working with police to send the message that drug trade is not acceptable where they live. More positive role models need to take the chance and try to be an example and mentor for the youth in their communities etc. The race card is beyond played out as the first excuse for any failure or outright crime by blacks. No black person alive today even has a living relative that was ever a slave. We are just about to the point where none have a relative that was ever discriminated against before the civil rights movement of the 60s...its time to quit beating that dead horse and man up and make something out of themselves. Unfortunately Barry has set race relations back at least 20 years with his bullcrap, so right now blacks are a little leery i think. There are a lot of people like me out there though that refuse to be caught up in the divisive rhetoric from the pres and the MSM
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The black culture ain't Changing. Not in our Lifetime, not in the Lifetimes of whomever will be born in the years 2100 or 2200. Their culture will will not under go any Permutation.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Do you think they're 21x more prone?

They are more likely to have encounters with law enforcement, but whether or not that's justified is the real question. Look at the war on drugs. The large majority of those that violate drug policy are white, and the large majority of those incarcerated for violation of drug policy are minorities.

No wonder they are 21x more likely to be shot. We tend to only go after white kids when there are no minorities.
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Very wrong. A lot of violent crimes have nothing directly involving drugs. Violent people are violent. It can be about the money you have in your pocket or looking at someone wrong. To a violent person there is no rhyme or reason. Stop making excuses and trying to misplace blame.
 
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