1 Weekend, 82 Shootings, 12 deaths--ALL in Gun free Zone

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Inversely, Illinois, according to 2011 data, is one of the safer states when is come to gun crimes. Tennessee is right down there with DC and Maryland. What was the point again?

Data summary
Gun crimes by US states

Rates per 100,000 population. Click heading to sort table. Download this data
State

Total firearms murders, 2011

% change, 2010-11

Fire- arms murders as % of all murders

Fire- arms murders rate

Fire- arms robb- eries rate
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Fire- arms assaults rate

RATES ARE PER 100,000 PEOPLE. SOURCE: FBI UNIFORM CRIME REPORTS

NO DATA FOR FLORIDA OR ALABAMA
Hawaii 1 -86 14 0.07 n/a n/a
Illinois 377 4 83 2.93 2.26 5.26
Idaho 17 42 53 1.14 3.41 23.43
Wyoming 11 120 73 2.01 3.65 20.44
Montana 7 -42 39 0.76 3.78 29.03
Vermont 4 100 50 0.75 4.32 12.6
North Dakota 6 50 50 0.93 4.79 4.79
South Dakota 5 -38 33 0.68 4.91 20.6
Maine 12 9 48 0.9 5.8 4.52
Iowa 19 -10 43 0.71 7.31 21.95
New Hampshire 6 20 38 0.53 9.83 15.14
Utah 26 18 51 0.97 10.98 21.32
Rhode Island 5 -69 36 0.57 12.71 17.86
Oregon 40 11 52 1.05 14.57 17.55
West Virginia 43 59 58 2.87 16.08 52.04
Alaska 16 -16 55 2.24 18.19 80.47
Minnesota 43 -19 61 0.82 20.11 22.52
Washington 79 -15 49 1.25 20.72 28.44
New York 445 -14 57 4.12 23.28 20.06
Kansas 73 16 66 2.78 24.86 76.87
Nebraska 42 31 65 2.5 25.44 33.84
Colorado 73 12 50 1.51 25.74 45.72
Massachusetts 122 3 67 2.02 27.84 33.19
Connecticut 94 -3 73 2.71 34.85 20.06
New Mexico 60 -10 50 2.98 34.96 87.26
Virginia 208 -17 69 2.58 35.4 21.35
United States 8,583 -3 68 2.75 39.25 43.77
Kentucky 100 -14 67 2.36 39.77 25.14
Oklahoma 131 18 64 3.64 42.81 58.07
California 1,220 -3 68 3.25 42.97 45.39
Wisconsin 80 -18 59 1.47 43.86 27.4
Arkansas 110 18 72 4.39 45.45 100.56
North Carolina 335 17 69 3.87 48.72 67.44
New Jersey 269 9 71 3.07 49.87 26.94
Texas 699 -13 64 2.91 50.21 58.28
Arizona 222 -4 65 3.53 50.24 57.36
Missouri 276 -14 76 4.64 52.47 88.9
South Carolina 223 8 70 5.41 52.93 127.88
Indiana 183 29 64 3.29 53.14 29.91
Pennsylvania 470 3 74 3.97 54.69 39.44
Michigan 450 9 73 5.06 55.95 86.41
Mississippi 138 15 74 7.46 60.07 51.69
Louisiana 402 15 83 10.16 63.48 99.51
Ohio 344 11 70 3.54 65.45 37.97
Delaware 28 -26 68 3.09 69.67 81.36
Nevada 75 -11 58 3.07 69.77 53.3
Georgia 370 -2 71 3.93 72.48 58.64
Tennessee 244 11 65 3.92 72.88 137.58
Maryland 272 -7 68 4.7 79.71 41.18
District of Columbia 77 -22 71 12.46 242.56 87.7
 
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KoachKletus said:
Inversely, Illinois, according to 2011 data, is one of the safer states when is come to gun crimes. Tennessee is right down there with DC and Maryland. What was the point again?
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Heh... So your point is that people kill each other with guns, whether they're banned or not, huh? DC and Maryland are two of the strictest gun control states in the nation, and mop up the bottom of the barrel.

So, your point is that gun control does not impact gun-related murders. It's nice that we all concur.
 
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KoachKletus said:
Inversely, Illinois, according to 2011 data, is one of the safer states when is come to gun crimes. Tennessee is right down there with DC and Maryland. What was the point again?

Data summary
Gun crimes by US states

Rates per 100,000 population. Click heading to sort table. Download this data
State

Total firearms murders, 2011

% change, 2010-11

Fire- arms murders as % of all murders

Fire- arms murders rate

Fire- arms robb- eries rate
▴
Fire- arms assaults rate

RATES ARE PER 100,000 PEOPLE. SOURCE: FBI UNIFORM CRIME REPORTS

NO DATA FOR FLORIDA OR ALABAMA
Hawaii 1 -86 14 0.07 n/a n/a
Illinois 377 4 83 2.93 2.26 5.26
Idaho 17 42 53 1.14 3.41 23.43
Wyoming 11 120 73 2.01 3.65 20.44
Montana 7 -42 39 0.76 3.78 29.03
Vermont 4 100 50 0.75 4.32 12.6
North Dakota 6 50 50 0.93 4.79 4.79
South Dakota 5 -38 33 0.68 4.91 20.6
Maine 12 9 48 0.9 5.8 4.52
Iowa 19 -10 43 0.71 7.31 21.95
New Hampshire 6 20 38 0.53 9.83 15.14
Utah 26 18 51 0.97 10.98 21.32
Rhode Island 5 -69 36 0.57 12.71 17.86
Oregon 40 11 52 1.05 14.57 17.55
West Virginia 43 59 58 2.87 16.08 52.04
Alaska 16 -16 55 2.24 18.19 80.47
Minnesota 43 -19 61 0.82 20.11 22.52
Washington 79 -15 49 1.25 20.72 28.44
New York 445 -14 57 4.12 23.28 20.06
Kansas 73 16 66 2.78 24.86 76.87
Nebraska 42 31 65 2.5 25.44 33.84
Colorado 73 12 50 1.51 25.74 45.72
Massachusetts 122 3 67 2.02 27.84 33.19
Connecticut 94 -3 73 2.71 34.85 20.06
New Mexico 60 -10 50 2.98 34.96 87.26
Virginia 208 -17 69 2.58 35.4 21.35
United States 8,583 -3 68 2.75 39.25 43.77
Kentucky 100 -14 67 2.36 39.77 25.14
Oklahoma 131 18 64 3.64 42.81 58.07
California 1,220 -3 68 3.25 42.97 45.39
Wisconsin 80 -18 59 1.47 43.86 27.4
Arkansas 110 18 72 4.39 45.45 100.56
North Carolina 335 17 69 3.87 48.72 67.44
New Jersey 269 9 71 3.07 49.87 26.94
Texas 699 -13 64 2.91 50.21 58.28
Arizona 222 -4 65 3.53 50.24 57.36
Missouri 276 -14 76 4.64 52.47 88.9
South Carolina 223 8 70 5.41 52.93 127.88
Indiana 183 29 64 3.29 53.14 29.91
Pennsylvania 470 3 74 3.97 54.69 39.44
Michigan 450 9 73 5.06 55.95 86.41
Mississippi 138 15 74 7.46 60.07 51.69
Louisiana 402 15 83 10.16 63.48 99.51
Ohio 344 11 70 3.54 65.45 37.97
Delaware 28 -26 68 3.09 69.67 81.36
Nevada 75 -11 58 3.07 69.77 53.3
Georgia 370 -2 71 3.93 72.48 58.64
Tennessee 244 11 65 3.92 72.88 137.58
Maryland 272 -7 68 4.7 79.71 41.18
District of Columbia 77 -22 71 12.46 242.56 87.7
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Now take Memphis out of the equation.
 
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Hmmm

Murder
by State "Total murders"
Hawaii 7
Vermont 8
North Dakota 12
Rhode Island 14
South Dakota 15
Wyoming 15
New Hampshire 16
Montana 18
Maine 25
Alaska 29
Idaho 32
Virgin Islands 38
Delaware 41
Iowa 44
Utah 51
Nebraska 65
Minnesota 70
West Virginia 74
Oregon 77
District of Columbia 108
Kansas 110
New Mexico 121
Connecticut 128
Nevada 129
Wisconsin 135
Colorado 147
Kentucky 150
Arkansas 153
Washington 161
Massachusetts 183
Mississippi 187
Oklahoma 204
Indiana 284
Virginia 303
South Carolina 319
Arizona 339
Missouri 364
Tennessee 373
New Jersey 379
Maryland 398
Illinois3 452
Louisiana 485
Ohio 488
North Carolina 489
Georgia 522
Michigan 613
Pennsylvania 636
New York 774
Texas 1,089
California 1,790

Odd that I get my numbers from the same place as you, but you want to use the percentage numbers because it makes it look worse.

Very liberal of you.
 
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And the 2012 stats in case anyone is curious. The 2013 aren't compiled and some States didn't give all the data (like Alabama for example)

by State "Total murders"

Alabama 2
Guam 2
Vermont 8
Hawaii 13
New Hampshire 14
South Dakota 14
Wyoming 14
North Dakota 16
Montana 22
Maine 25
Idaho 26
Alaska 29
Rhode Island 34
Iowa 44
Utah 49
Nebraska 52
Virgin Islands 52
Delaware 57
West Virginia 66
Oregon 81
Kansas 84
Minnesota 89
New Mexico 109
Nevada 116
Massachusetts 121
Connecticut 146
Colorado 160
Arkansas 166
Wisconsin 169
Mississippi 174
Kentucky 192
Washington 194
Oklahoma 212
Indiana 275
Virginia 314
Arizona 321
South Carolina 324
Maryland 365
New Jersey 385
Tennessee 387
Missouri 389
Ohio 410
Louisiana 455
North Carolina 470
Illinois3 509
Georgia 541
Michigan 682
New York 682
Pennsylvania 684
Texas 1,141
California 1,879
 
#9
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GV, I didn't see Florida in either of those post. I'm just curious to see there numbers as well.
 
#10
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82_VOL_83 said:
Gun control doesn't work as evidenced by KK's stats. Nuff said.
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He proved our point without realizing it. Some states with lax gun laws have very low murder rates, and some states with lax gun laws have high murder rates. Some states with strict gun laws have low murder rates and some states with strict gun laws have high murder rates.

Pretty much sums up the argument pro-gunners have been trying to explain ad nauseam. Now if we could just ban people rather than inanimate objects.......
 
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Gannon Goodson said:
He proved our point without realizing it. Some states with lax gun laws have very low murder rates, and some states with lax gun laws have high murder rates. Some states with strict gun laws have low murder rates and some states with strict gun laws have high murder rates.

Pretty much sums up the argument pro-gunners have been trying to explain ad nauseam. Now if we could just ban people rather than inanimate objects.......
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Don't feed the libs. They've been trying to ban people for generations.

Eugenics and the Progressive Movement - Discover the Networks
 
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Youre right. Lets just hand out free guns for everyone. That would solve everything. If there's a problem - just shoot it out.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Youre right. Lets just hand out free guns for everyone. That would solve everything. If there's a problem - just shoot it out.
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Only if we train them to shoot it properly.

How does it feel to be afraid of an inanimate object? If you see one on a table do you run the other direction in fear it may discharge sitting there?
 
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CNCVol88 said:
How does it feel to be afraid of an inanimate object? If you see one on a table do you run the other direction in fear it may discharge sitting there?
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I would seriously be in trouble. It would create a very dangerous crossfire in my house.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
Only if we train them to shoot it properly.

How does it feel to be afraid of an inanimate object? If you see one on a table do you run the other direction in fear it may discharge sitting there?
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I actually own a gun. But ive never fired it. Dont even have any ammo for it. Its just a family heirloom, it was my grandfathers.

Im not afraid of guns, I'm afraid of nutjobs with guns. There is no feasible way to weed out the nutjobs, so everyone loses.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I actually own a gun. But ive never fired it. Dont even have any ammo for it. Its just a family heirloom, it was my grandfathers.
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I'll give you $50 for it since I wouldn't want it falling into the hands of a nutjob or anything.
 
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