Keystone Pipeline - a red line?

[volinbham]

State Department releases Keystone XL final environmental impact statement - The Washington Post

So Obama said he'd only approve if the pipeline doesn't "exacerbate" global climate change. The study (like many in the past) shows that it will not.

On what grounds will he choose not to approve given his conditions were met?

I thought this was a year of action...

 

[FLVOL69]

He's anti fossil fuels... Doesn't fit his green agenda.

 

[volmaverick]

He lied again

 

[govols/cc]

He's anti fossil fuels... Doesn't fit his green agenda.

Does his cigs not pollute? Does Air Force 1 that he uses for a vacation every week not burn fossil fuels?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Does his cigs not pollute? Does Air Force 1 that he uses for a vacation every week not burn fossil fuels?

yes yes and he doesn't give a shjt about the plane.

 

[FLVOL69]

Does his cigs not pollute? Does Air Force 1 that he uses for a vacation every week not burn fossil fuels?

Sure it does..hypocrisy at its finest.

 

[Velo Vol]

On what grounds will he choose not to approve given his conditions were met?

I missed the part where it said he wasn't going to approve it.

 

[govols/cc]

I missed the part where it said he wasn't going to approve it.

Did you not watch the sotu? Climate change is real & we will lead the way in reducing carbon emissions etc etc etc bla bla bla. Which means we will squander billions of dollars instead of doing something to actually help the economy.

 

[volinbham]

I missed the part where it said he wasn't going to approve it.

It's called speculation. The hedging language after this "final" report came out makes it reasonable to speculate he will not approve it; or at least will drag it out as long as possible which is in conflict with his "I have a phone and a pen" commentary.

 

[Velo Vol]

If I had to bet, I would bet that some form of pipeline will ultimately be approved. He'll continue to drag out the process for a while, but eventually give it the green light.

 

[BeecherVol]

It's called speculation. The hedging language after this "final" report came out makes it reasonable to speculate he will not approve it; or at least will drag it out as long as possible which is in conflict with his "I have a phone and a pen" commentary.

It's more political circle jerk.

 

[Grand Vol]

If I had to bet, I would bet that some form of pipeline will ultimately be approved. He'll continue to drag out the process for a while, but eventually give it the green light.

Why drag this out any longer than it has already? He keeps putting it off and putting it off and gets more environmental impact research done...five times now.

He's dragging his feet and hoping there will finally be a slim excuse not to sign it in one of these reports.

 

[FLVOL69]

Here's the answer

 

[FLVOL69]

Lol

 

[MG1968]

If I had to bet, I would bet that some form of pipeline will ultimately be approved. He'll continue to drag out the process for a while, but eventually give it the green light.

And risk endangering his friendship with Warren Buffet, whose railroad is already transporting oil along the same route Keystone would take?

 

[FLVOL69]

And risk endangering his friendship with Warren Buffet, whose railroad is already transporting oil along the same route Keystone would take?

Exactly ... Lotta folks aren't aware of that...I wonder if that spill that happened recently was a part of his rr.

 

[FLVOL69]

The real delay of keystone

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

The real delay of keystone

:whistling: Amazing how those pictures look just like Barry.

 

[FLVOL69]

:whistling: Amazing how those pictures look just like Barry.

Hahaha

 

[Velo Vol]

Why drag this out any longer than it has already? He keeps putting it off and putting it off and gets more environmental impact research done...five times now..

Why alienate constituent interest groups today if you can wait until tomorrow?

If he was dead set against the project, he could have shut it down long ago, rather than go through this process of generating inconclusive reports and comment periods.

And risk endangering his friendship with Warren Buffet, whose railroad is already transporting oil along the same route Keystone would take?

He'll get over it.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Did you not watch the sotu? Climate change is real & we will lead the way in reducing carbon emissions etc etc etc bla bla bla. Which means we will squander billions of dollars instead of doing something to actually help the economy.

Yep. Regular people call em "seasons".

 

[Grand Vol]

Why alienate constituent interest groups today if you can wait until tomorrow?

Let's see...

66% support the project, 23% opposed. Leaving 11% as unknown, but still won't even make half if they swayed those. And this day in age getting 66% of the people to agree on anything is miraculous.

But we have a president that is courting the environmentalist vote to include extremist groups that threaten "civil disobedience" if the pipeline goes through. And could have been courting the oil industry, roughnecks and supporting jobs that could and would put people to work. But I guess it's better to have them on welfare and to continue getting our oil from overseas sources specifically from nations that typically hate Americans, but love our dollars.

It's BS to have sat on this for so long and after making the oil industry make so many changes voluntarily. Five studies and they all reach the same conclusion that this will have negligible impact on the environment, will create jobs and infrastructure and will lessen our dependence on overseas oil sources. But I guess in the name of politics, that doesn't matter.

 

[Herman Hickman]

And risk endangering his friendship with Warren Buffet, whose railroad is already transporting oil along the same route Keystone would take?

This. The good of nation takes second place to the good of well-heeled progressive donors.

 

[SGMVols]

Obama's trying to avoid any decision on this project as long as possible, because it has him between a rock and a hard place. If he approves it, he pisses off the environmentalists. If he rejects it, he pisses off the unions. The only way he doesn't alienate a significant faction of his supporters is to stay neutral.

 

[Velo Vol]

But I guess it's better to have them on welfare and to continue getting our oil from overseas sources specifically from nations that typically hate Americans, but love our dollars.

Uh, this pipeline comes from Canada, right?