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Old 12-20-2012, 05:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Save the rich? God this phrase is getting old.

The only difference between liberals and everyone else is that liberals insist on "the rich" paying "their fair share" while everybody else just wants to be fair (equal) across the board.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Save the rich? God this phrase is getting old.

The only difference between liberals and everyone else is that liberals insist on "the rich" paying "their fair share" while everybody else just wants to be fair (equal) across the board.

Unless the tax system is changed as sickening as it is to say the liberals are actually correct. We have a progressive tax system the more one makes the more one pays.
It is not right but it is our system. We desperately need to go to some type of a flat or fair tax.
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Unless the tax system is changed as sickening as it is to say the liberals are actually correct. We have a progressive tax system the more one makes the more one pays.
It is not right but it is our system. We desperately need to go to some type of a flat or fair tax.
That would require removing all the crooks from Washington.. Would be a big job..
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Unless the tax system is changed as sickening as it is to say the liberals are actually correct. We have a progressive tax system the more one makes the more one pays.
It is not right but it is our system. We desperately need to go to some type of a flat or fair tax.
I have a lot of agreement here. I agree a flat or fair tax is the way to go. However, the reality is when the top 1% or so control the vast majority of the wealth, and the bottom vast majority have split the rest, the progressive tax system will be a reality in a democratic society. It is what it is.

This isn't an endorsement of the progressive system, like I said, the flat or fair is the way to go in my opinion, but I just don't see it as a political reality.
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Unless the tax system is changed as sickening as it is to say the liberals are actually correct. We have a progressive tax system the more one makes the more one pays.
It is not right but it is our system. We desperately need to go to some type of a flat or fair tax.
How is a progressive tax system "saving the rich"?
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I have a lot of agreement here. I agree a flat or fair tax is the way to go. However, the reality is when the top 1% or so control the vast majority of the wealth, and the bottom vast majority have split the rest, the progressive tax system will be a reality in a democratic society. It is what it is.

This isn't an endorsement of the progressive system, like I said, the flat or fair is the way to go in my opinion, but I just don't see it as a political reality.
The problem is, the wealth belongs to them in the first place. It isn't mine to take via taxes, extortion, or any other thing that this administration has tried.
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How is a progressive tax system "saving the rich"?
It doesn't. i never said or indicated it does.
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The problem is, the wealth belongs to them in the first place. It isn't mine to take via taxes, extortion, or any other thing that this administration has tried.
The progressive system has been in place under both parties. The dems may take it further with their ideology, but it will always be a political reality with both parties, unfortunately.
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The progressive system has been in place under both parties. The dems may take it further with their ideology, but it will always be a political reality with both parties, unfortunately.
It has not even been a political reality for 100 years in the US.
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It doesn't. i never said or indicated it does.
Ok. You're going to have to tell me what you meant by your post.
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It has not even been a political reality for 100 years in the US.
It is now, and for the foreseeable future.
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It is now, and for the foreseeable future.
That might be true; it might be false. The institution of progressive income tax in America is certainly not immutable or inviolable.
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That might be true; it might be false. The institution of progressive income tax in America is certainly not immutable or inviolable.
You're arguing just to argue. It is now, and unless significant political change occurs, it will more than likely stay this way for awhile.

I suspect it will take more people paying into the system for such change to happen.
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Unless the tax system is changed as sickening as it is to say the liberals are actually correct. We have a progressive tax system the more one makes the more one pays.
It is not right but it is our system. We desperately need to go to some type of a flat or fair tax.
how does a comment like "it is not right" square with your first sentence? Help a brother out here. It being "our system" likely means it isn't right at this point. Exacerbating the problem doesn't help.
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