Who was the fool who posted Obama isn't a socialist,

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even other socialist don't think he is a socialist?

Sometimes it's difficult to discern whether some posts and posters mean to deceive or are they that totally stupid and/or ignorant.

A group of college students chanted “Karl Marx” and “socialism” while celebrating Obama’s electoral victory in front of the White House late Tuesday night, a video shot by Campus Reform reveals.

The raucous group of students chanted “Karl Marx, Karl Marx, Karl Marx,” and cited abortion, socialism, and “Obama phones” as reasons for their support of President Obama’s second term.

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Gs, you left out that he is Kenyan, as well. And also gay.

I'm surprised you didn't call me racist.

I left out he was a musician too.

He playes the flute.

" Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper’s bell of an approaching looter.

The man who lets a leader prescribe his course is a wreck being towed to the scrap heap.

It only stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.

A government is the most dangerous threat to man’s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims.

Do not ever say that the desire to “do good” by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives.

Government “help” to business is just as disastrous as government persecution… the only way a government can be of service to national prosperity is by keeping its hands off.

I swear, by my life and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.

Individual rights are not subject to a public vote; a majority has no right to vote away the rights of a minority; the political function of rights is precisely to protect minorities from oppression by majorities -and the smallest minority on earth is the individual.

Let me give you a tip on a clue to men's characters: the man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.

The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws

The purpose of morality is to teach you, not to suffer and die, but to enjoy yourself- and live.

The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.

Freedom (n.): To ask nothing. To expect nothing. To depend on nothing.

You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.

The question isn’t 'who is going to let me'; it’s
'who is going to stop me?' "

From the writings of Ayn Rand

The skin flute.
 
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Sounds like my sociology class....

Sad.

Since the implementation of the federal income tax in 1913 we have had only four administrations which significantly lowered income tax rates. In each and every single instance marginal tax rates were lowered revenues increased to the US Treasury.

The first time income tax rates were reduced came about in the 1920s during the Harding-Coolidge Administrations. Under the direction of Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon, the top tax rate was reduced from 77% to 25%. After tax cuts were fully implemented, revenues increased to the Treasury by 61%. Calvin Coolidge especially understood the concept of maximizing revenues and the law of diminishing returns. In a speech delivered in New York City in 1924, Coolidge said:

"The first object of taxation is to secure revenue. When taxation of large incomes is approached with that view, the problem is to find a rate which produce the largets returns. Experience does not show that the higher rate produces the larger revenue. Experience is all in the other way. When the surtax on incomes of $300,000 and over is 10 percent, the revenue is about the same as when it was 65 percent. There is no escaping the fact that when the taxation of large incomes is excessive, they tend to disappear. In 1916 there were 206 incomes of $1,000,000 or more. Then the high rate wento into effect. The next year there only 141, and in 1918, but 67. In 1919, the number declined to 65. In 1920 it fell to 33 and in 1921 it was further reduced to 21. I am not making the argument with the man who believes 55 percent ought to be taken away from the man with $1,000,000 income, or 68 percent from a $5,000,000 income, but when it is considered that in the effort to get these amounts we are rapidly approaching the point of getting nothing at all, it is necessary to look for a more practical method. That can be done only by a reduction of the high surtaxes when viewed solely as a revenue proposition, to about 25 percent...The experience of the Treasury Department and the opinion of the best experts place the rate which will collect the most from people of great wealth, thus giving the largest relieft to people of moderate wealth, at not over 25 percent."

The second significant tax rate reductions came about in the 1960s during the Kennedy-Johnson Administrations when to the top marginal tax rate was lowered from 91% to 70%. Revenues increased to the US Treasury by 33% after the tax cuts were fully implemented. JFK was even more succinct when he said in 1963:

"Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased--not a reduced--flow of revenues to the federal government."

The third time federal income taxes were significantly reduced came about in the 1980s under the Reagan Administration when the top tax rate was lowered from 70% to 28%. Revenues increased to the Treasury by 100% after the tax cuts were implemented. Vice President Joe Biden, then a US Senator voted for the final installment on those tax cuts in 1986 as did most other senate Democrats.

The fourth time tax reductions came about was in 2000s under the George W. Bush when the top rate was lowered from 39.5% to 35%. Here is how Investor's Business Daily (09/07/2012) measured the impact of those tax cuts:

"...Bush's income and capital gains tax cuts--once fully in effect in 2003--accelerated economic growth and boosted job creation. In fact, the economy created 8.1 million new jobs in the four years after the tax cuts took effect."

Revenues to the Treasury then reached their all time record high in 2007, fully debunking the myth that tax-cuts blow holes in the deficit. To the contrary, cuts in marginal tax rates INCREASE revenues to the US Treasury each and every time they have ever been tried as indicated by the historical record. In addition to increased revenues to the Treasury, tax rate reductions were always immediately followed by significant increases in economic growth as measured by GDP, a lowering of unemployment, and an upswing in the DJIA---in all four instances WITHOUT exception.

President Calvin Coolidge gave the most in depth and detailed explanation of why lower tax rates yield higher revenues. When tax rates are excessive to the point of punishing, those with high incomes tend to shelter it and behave defensively. They invest in tax exempt municipal securities and bond funds. They invest in tax deferred retirement accounts and real estate tax shelters. The super rich can set up tax free foundations which they control and keep control of the money. They can do estate planning and set up trust funds for their designated heirs--Joseph Kennedy Sr did this in the 1930s and 40s making all nine of his children millionaires and thus escaping a huge tax obligation on himself. Of course Kennedy retained control over those trust funds until he became incapacitated. And of course we have heard of the Rockefeller, Ford, and Carnegie Foundations among many others which were primarily created to avoid excessive taxation. Further, in today's global economy, capital is very fluid and flows to where it it most welcome and can be put to the most efficient use and that more often than not means offshore.

The Occupy Wall Street crowd would be stunned and amazed to learn you often get more with less. People respond better to sugar and honey than they do with salt and vinegar. But then again what is the intent? To secure the maximum amount revenue or punish people? Barack Obama clearly wants to punish. During the 2008 presidential primary campaign, during a debate, Charles Gibson, discussing capital gains taxes pointed out to Obama when that tax is lowered, higher revenues followed. Obama said it didn't matter, that out of fairness, hedge fund managers should be paying higher capital gains taxes. Then, more recently, just days before the election, Obama exhorted his supporters to vote for revenge. Does not matter to people like Obama, that with their thirst for revenge and desire to punish, they will secure LESS revenue for the Treasury as the wealthy will shelter their income rather than risk it making productive investments in a high tax environment.


Vampires, Werewolves and The Post Election Market Reaction « Confounded Interest

President Obama’s solution is for the “wealthy” to pay more taxes (of course, he defines “wealthy” as earning $200,000 per year which is hardly wealthy in major American cities).

The US debt and entitlement situation is grim indeed. Each taxpayer’s share of the national debt is $141,665 and the unfunded entitlement liability per taxpayer is … $1,058,463!

And finally, if you subtract federal spending from the equation then the GDP is declining at the rate of 6% per annum under Obama.

I expect that to get much worse during the next four years and that to be expalined to us as the failure of capitalism thusly the need to go to a completely socialistic system.

In 2011 one out of every five people in America were on the medicaid roles.

When you hear the mantra; 'tax the wealthy', you are hearing a lie of epic proportions.

The really wealthy have their money in tax free foundations that insures their families will always be wealthy.

What 'tax the wealthy' really means is elimination of the bourgeoisie. Supposedly this will bring on a dictatorship of the proletariat.

That's where theory and reality depart company, the proletariat are far worse off once the government has the power of tyranny over all the people.

Basically what we have to decide, and this will rest solidly on the shoulders of the younger generation; is the government the servant of the people or is it the master?

If the answer is the latter rather than the former, then we are indeed in for some hard times here in America.
 
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Don't you have some chads to hang?

Chads of a kind hang together.

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Keynesian Economics does not equal socialism... the difference between me and you is while you call everyone liberal a socialist, I call everyone conservative a fascist, but you believe it, I don't. This is also why your party is tanking.
 
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GSVol-

You have some great posts. I never got serious in politics until 2008(still ignorant on some subjects) . Finding truth and who and what to trust has driven me crazy!
My father is a financial wizard (does not work in accounting) and keeps to himself about everything!
But when it comes to politics he basically said the same thing you wrote about. Do it for yourself, you will never disappoint anyone.
I know political message boards aren't the place to find what I'm looking for , but damn did your post steer me in the right direction.
Thanks GSVOL!
GBO VFL !
 
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Keynesian Economics does not equal socialism... the difference between me and you is while you call everyone liberal a socialist, I call everyone conservative a fascist, but you believe it, I don't. This is also why your party is tanking.

That is because you believe the communist propaganda meme that left is socialist and right if fascist which has been their propaganda theme since WWII.

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

The differences between fascism and communism are merely cosmetic, in essence they are the same, they are both top down government controled tyrantical socialist systems.

My party is the "party" party, we're doing better than ever, don't mistake me for a republican.

Kenesian economics does = socialism BTW, Fabian socialism.

Tanking? Reminds me of the joke about the recruit in WWII who was issued a stick because they were out of rifles and told to point it at the enemy and say 'bang, bang' and when put on the front lines it worked for a while, every time he said bang the enemy fell down but then he went bang bang bang and the guy just kept coming and as he was trampled underfoot he heard the guy who just ran over him say; "tankety, tankety tankety."

Reminds me of our defense this year.




GSVol, you make VN worth coming to, you and Billy C.

Thanks.

And if it were up to you it would be a dead zone, so dull and boring no one would bother.




You don't have the pic of Owebummer and Larry Sinclair by any chance?

I could give you a pic of Larry with a couple of bullet holes in his head but then what's his face would ban me for inappropriate content that doesn't meet PC standards.




GSVol-

You have some great posts. I never got serious in politics until 2008(still ignorant on some subjects) . Finding truth and who and what to trust has driven me crazy!
My father is a financial wizard (does not work in accounting) and keeps to himself about everything!
But when it comes to politics he basically said the same thing you wrote about. Do it for yourself, you will never disappoint anyone.
I know political message boards aren't the place to find what I'm looking for , but damn did your post steer me in the right direction.
Thanks GSVOL!
GBO VFL !


You're welcome.

Some times the truth is illusive.

Most times though it is as plain as day.

Trust but verify.

What subjects would you like to know about?
 
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That is because you believe the communist propaganda meme that left is socialist and right if fascist which has been their propaganda theme since WWII.

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

The differences between fascism and communism are merely cosmetic, in essence they are the same, they are both top down government controled tyrantical socialist systems.

My party is the "party" party, we're doing better than ever, don't mistake me for a republican.

Kenesian economics does = socialism BTW, Fabian socialism.

Tanking? Reminds me of the joke about the recruit in WWII who was issued a stick because they were out of rifles and told to point it at the enemy and say 'bang, bang' and when put on the front lines it worked for a while, every time he said bang the enemy fell down but then he went bang bang bang and the guy just kept coming and as he was trampled underfoot he heard the guy who just ran over him say; "tankety, tankety tankety."

Reminds me of our defense this year.

Eh... the Fascist talk against suspected communist uprisings have been going on since WWI, if Keynesian Economics is communism, why was FDR not attacked?
Its not, it affects taxing, that's it. Communism dissolves private property, private sector business, all means of production... if you truly believe that is the goal of this administration, you need help.
 
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Keynesian Economics does not equal socialism... the difference between me and you is while you call everyone liberal a socialist, I call everyone conservative a fascist, but you believe it, I don't. This is also why your party is tanking.

Bingo.
 
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It just makes sense to me that any one person would want the next person to not ask them for anything. I like giving to charity, I don't like giving to bums, which confuses me.
Why would a leader not want the people to make their own life. I read the "50$" lesson , it's simple!

If you want to help some one give them something to do and pay them for their time which helped you for that time.
I am in the process of growing my lawn business , the taxes are becoming overwhelming , but not discouraging. But next summer when I need to hire more help and make a payroll then I have to charge less while hoping to keep gaining clients.
I'm at wits end trying to figure out my business plan for next year, if I make too much ill be in trouble, now if I don't make a certain amount I fall into a dangerous part of the tax bracket for sole proprietorships. It's like damned if I do damned if I don't.

I have black friends who hate Obama , and that love him. I have heard his supporters say that Romney will take all their free benifits. They were mad they might have to take a drug test to remain on welfare, they said it on local news! The Obama supporters don't want to work!
Now when I make my money that I bleed and sweat for, I don't get to buy the really good health insurance for myself and family.
I'm going back to college to finish my degrees. I am trying to take some political classes. But other opinions and views(along with news networks and research sites) seem to just argue and complain about each other.
Just once I want to hear some relevant news and facts that I do not need a Masters in Politics to understand !
I mean punching a clock is the easiest way out and live paycheck to paycheck, but I want to do like Dave Ramsey and "Live like no one else in order to live like No one else"!!
But these taxes clearly couldn't allow for my investments to grow !?!?
@GSVOL
 
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Eh... the Fascist talk against suspected communist uprisings have been going on since WWI, if Keynesian Economics is communism, why was FDR not attacked?
Its not, it affects taxing, that's it. Communism dissolves private property, private sector business, all means of production... if you truly believe that is the goal of this administration, you need help.

You need hel if you believe it doesn't.

Here, let me help.

You mean FDR attacked politically? He was.

Fascism and communism are both socialist systems.

Keynesian economics is of the Fabian socialist school.

The book '1984' was written about the Fabian socialists.

Have you ever read 'Tragedy and Hope?'

The ends are this,; gain control of money flow and production, wallah, you have complete political control of the government and of the people and their industry.

Read this:

Keynes at Harvard - Chapter 10

When John Maynard Keynes was seven years old (1890) his father authored a volume entitled the Scope and Method of Political Economy. The Keynesian method of double entendre was developed by the elder Keynes to a fine art. An economist who could write a 370 page book studded with marxist-like metaphors without once mentioning the name of Marx must be credited at being a master of skillful literary concealment. J.N. Keynes’ talent of assuming a respectable posture within an academic sanctuary while chipping away at the edifice of private enterprise, was passed on to his son. John Neville Keynes managed to smuggle in the marxist theme that, “Schemes of socialism, moreover, as distinguished from pure communism, do not necessarily involve the entire abolition of free exchange.”
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The elder Keynes book was required reading among Fabian socialists and was listed for sale in the official organ of the American Fabian Society under the listing, “Recommended books on Socialism and Social Reform.”(7) Thus John Maynard Keynes was nurtured on socialism and atheism practically from his mother’s milk.

At the age of 21 Keynes was taken in hand by G. Lowes Dickinson, the effete Fabian socialist at Cambridge University. There he was joined by Leonard Woolf, a life long Fabian and G.E. Moore the philosopher of the Fabian Society of socialists.
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The chronology of John Maynard Keynes’ association and activity with Fabian socialism is unbroken from 1904 until his death.
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In spite of his public record as a socialist, Keynes was appointed as an aid to Prime Minister David Lloyd George during the Paris peace talks with Germany in 1919. During this period he was asked by the Fabian socialists to head their London School of Economics.
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At the end of 1919, Keynes wrote The Economic Consequences of the Peace of which a special edition was published bearing the imprint of the British Fabian Society. This special edition was distributed among socialists both in England and the United States. It was at this time that the Fabian socialists began to pass off Keynes as a “capitalist economist.”

(from a letter to his mother in 1917:)

Well, the only course open to me is to be bouyantly bolshevik; and as I lie in bed in the morning I reflect with a good deal of satisfaction that, because our rulers are as incompetent as they are mad and wicked, one particular era of a particular kind of a civilization is very nearly over.

(from a letter to his mother in 1918:)

My most amusing job just lately has been to invent a new currency for Russia. Dudley Ward and I have been spending a great deal of time on the details, as we have had to design the notes, get them printed, choose the personnel, answer conundrums and do the whole thing from top to toe. We hope to have the plan launched on the world in two or three weeks’ time.
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In 1919 Nicolai Lenin issued a wildly enthusiastic panegyric on Keynes book, The Economic Consequences of the Peace. He declared, “Nowhere has the Versailles Treaty been described so well as in the book by Keynes.”(14) The fat was in the fire and Keynes’ pro-bolshevism was in danger of being publicly established. Keynes as a covert leftist partisan posing as a defender of capitalism was in jeopardy.

Lenin later manipulated one of his adroit propaganda side-steps by quoting Keynes and utilizing his material and at the same time damning him as, “a ruthless opponent of Bolshevism.” This saved Keynes for the role as an anti-bolshevik figure among influential circles in Great Britain. It was a brilliant deception and indicated a skillful close-order drill in left-wing political cover-up. Lenin, of course, was well apprised of Keynes bolshevik sympathies. The red cells at Cambridge University were in close contact with the Fabians and a full dossier on Keynes was available to the Soviet leaders.
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This “ruthless opponent of Bolshevism” was allowed to move freely throughout the Soviet Union in 1925 and again in 1928 with his Russian born wife. If Lenin’s accusation had any serious intent then Keynes and his wife would have naturally been barred at the red frontier. Otherwise they would have been shot since these were the years of the Red Terror where even menshevik socialists were being executed by the thousands.
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In 1926 Keynes emphasized his pro-bolshevik position by writing that he was on the “extreme left” as compared to Sidney Webb the head of the Fabian socialists in Britain.(18) Keynes’ subsequent organization of the International Monetary Fund in cooperation with Soviet representatives and American Soviet spies (1945-46) demonstrates his continuing Soviet associations even towards the end of his life.
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In 1928 on his way back from the Soviet Union Keynes had a long conference with the German economist Hjalmar Schacht. Keynes reported that he and Schacht agreed on Keynesian policies. Thirty-four months later Schacht joined hands with Hitler and utilized Keynesian methods to socialize the German nation for a war economy. When World War II began Keynes declared, “that Britain would have to employ all of the weapons of Dr. Schacht.”(19) Later Keynes reiterated that, “the various recipies devised by Dr. Schacht for Germany would have to be applied by Britain. . . .”(20) The Fabian socialists pondered over the Keynesian nature of Hitlerian economics. As mentioned before, Mussolini saw in Keynes projections the basic economic weapons with which to shore up his Fascist System. Earl Browder while still National Secretary of the Communist Party of the United States also realized that Keynes furnished the perfect battering ram with which to topple the system of free enterprise thereby laying the groundwork for an American Soviet system. Hitler, Mussolini and the communists all found Keynesian formulas equally acceptable as a means of expediting totalitarian rule.
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Extraordinary efforts have been made to deny Keynes’ connections with Fabian socialism. There has been an almost hysterical chant insisting that Keynes was anti-socialist and anti-bolshevik. Actually Keynes periodic surfacing as a pro-Soviet partisan is much more recognizable than the records of such notorious Soviet agents as Alger Hiss and Harry Dexter White.

Keynes’ tie-in with Fabian socialism is so extensive that it is difficult to compress the record within the confines of a few pages. Even a thousand page book would not exhaust Keynes’ Fabian trail.
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When American Fabian socialists within the New Deal found need to organize another ‘spontaneous’ point of pressure the deception was pulled off again. Schlesinger boasted that when Keynes visited the United States in 1934, “Keynes found others in Washington more receptive. Steered around by Tugwell, he met a number of younger men and told them to spend—a monthly deficit of only $200 million, he said, would send the nation back to the bottom of the depression, but $300 million would hold it even and $400 million would bring recovery. A few days later he sent Roosevelt the draft of another New York Times article entitled ‘agenda for the President.’ ”(25) The sequence of multi-layered trickery was carried off with the dispatch of a smooth confidence game. First Keynes conspired with Fabians in Washington to establish policy pressures from within the administrative bureaucracy. This was done behind F.D.R’s back. Next he conspired with the president to plant a so-called independent article. F.D. Roosevelt went over this material with Keynes beforehand. Next Keynes arranged with the leftists in the New York Times to put over this piece of manufactured news onto the public as an exclusive feature. In this intricate maneuver everyone was deceived in some measure, except the Fabian socialist center.

so as to not appear so sophomoric.

Am I getting through to you at all?
 
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"My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

Would you care to elucidate?

You're talking about Chavez?







It just makes sense to me that any one person would want the next person to not ask them for anything. I like giving to charity, I don't like giving to bums, which confuses me.
Why would a leader not want the people to make their own life. I read the "50$" lesson , it's simple!

If you want to help some one give them something to do and pay them for their time which helped you for that time.
I am in the process of growing my lawn business , the taxes are becoming overwhelming , but not discouraging. But next summer when I need to hire more help and make a payroll then I have to charge less while hoping to keep gaining clients.
I'm at wits end trying to figure out my business plan for next year, if I make too much ill be in trouble, now if I don't make a certain amount I fall into a dangerous part of the tax bracket for sole proprietorships. It's like damned if I do damned if I don't.

I have black friends who hate Obama , and that love him. I have heard his supporters say that Romney will take all their free benifits. They were mad they might have to take a drug test to remain on welfare, they said it on local news! The Obama supporters don't want to work!
Now when I make my money that I bleed and sweat for, I don't get to buy the really good health insurance for myself and family.
I'm going back to college to finish my degrees. I am trying to take some political classes. But other opinions and views(along with news networks and research sites) seem to just argue and complain about each other.
Just once I want to hear some relevant news and facts that I do not need a Masters in Politics to understand !
I mean punching a clock is the easiest way out and live paycheck to paycheck, but I want to do like Dave Ramsey and "Live like no one else in order to live like No one else"!!
But these taxes clearly couldn't allow for my investments to grow !?!?
@GSVOL

Read all the books of Adam Starchild.








Bingo what?






I'll have what gsvol is smoking.

"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer

Perhaps you can summon up the courage to articulate what it is you disagree with an why so?
 
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You need hel if you believe it doesn't.

Here, let me help.

You mean FDR attacked politically? He was.

Fascism and communism are both socialist systems.

Keynesian economics is of the Fabian socialist school.

The book '1984' was written about the Fabian socialists.

Have you ever read 'Tragedy and Hope?'

The ends are this,; gain control of money flow and production, wallah, you have complete political control of the government and of the people and their industry.

Read this:

Keynes at Harvard - Chapter 10



so as to not appear so sophomoric.

Am I getting through to you at all?

Yeah, you're getting through to me that instead of actually realizing how our economy has worked for a hundred years, you want to attribute it to conspiracy theories of the tea party.
For almost 100 years now, this country has dealt with globalization and economic shifts through monetarism and Keynesian economics. It is a constantly shifting policy to guarantee the lowest possible unemployment, and has worked. We know that Keynesian economics causes inflation over a long period of time, so it shouldn't be practiced for more than a decade, it should only be used to lower unemployment rates when aggregate demand is inbalanced with aggregate supply, then once our goal of unemployment is met, we revert to monetarism, controlling only interest rates, to reduce inflation and maintain a good economic standing.
Now, the fact that you are insinuating that this is all 1 big conspiracy theory(Fabian Socialism) to slowly slip to communism, is absurd. I say this because we have been back and forth meeting an equilibrium somewhere in between, every 8-12 years, as neither form of economics works for an extended period of time when practiced too heavily, therefore the general populous sees this and votes in the party who believes the opposite. And 2nd of all, we have had taxes and control on business at least twice the amount we do now, so by your theory, we are experiencing "Fabian Fascism", and have been for quite some time. Stop with the party polarization, neither policy is right, its somewhere in between, fortunately with the constant swing in power, we see an equilibrium over time.
 
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You need hel if you believe it doesn't.

Here, let me help.

You mean FDR attacked politically? He was.

Fascism and communism are both socialist systems.

Keynesian economics is of the Fabian socialist school.

The book '1984' was written about the Fabian socialists.

Have you ever read 'Tragedy and Hope?'

The ends are this,; gain control of money flow and production, wallah, you have complete political control of the government and of the people and their industry.

Read this:

Keynes at Harvard - Chapter 10



so as to not appear so sophomoric.

Am I getting through to you at all?

Gs I like a lot of the stuff you post. Keep it coming. Drives the libtards crazy and keeps me informed on what the muslims are up to. They like to mock you bc you tell the unpopular truth when it comes to Maobama and his hidden agenda. Don't be deterred by their ignorance. We will all pay for the ignorance of this election.
 
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Gs I like a lot of the stuff you post. Keep it coming. Drives the libtards crazy and keeps me informed on what the muslims are up to. They like to mock you bc you tell the unpopular truth when it comes to Maobama and his hidden agenda. Don't be deterred by their ignorance. We will all pay for the ignorance of this election.

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Gs I like a lot of the stuff you post. Keep it coming. Drives the libtards crazy and keeps me informed on what the muslims are up to. They like to mock you bc you tell the unpopular truth when it comes to Maobama and his hidden agenda. Don't be deterred by their ignorance. We will all pay for the ignorance of this election.

Thanks. :salute:

Adversity is a great teacher, we will learn, whether they do or not.

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened."
Sir Winston Churchill










There is an answer for ignorance, it's called knowledge.

Unfortunately, although we have made great advances, science has yet to come up with a remedy for stupidity.

You have my sincere sympathies.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/communist-party-usa-celebrates-obamas-victory-we-won/

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Progressives like you worked their hearts out all over America for our people, our country, our president, and progressive Democrats. We fought and beat the tea party, the oligarchs and massive rich, Karl Rove’s strategy, ALEC, the Koch Brothers, and all those who would tear down democracy and destroy the middle class and the labor movement. Women spoke strongly. Latinos spoke strongly. The LGBT community spoke strongly. And AFRICAN-AMERICANS fought back against the neo-poll taxes and disenfranchisement.

The only thing they don't mention is their successful massive organized voter fraud.
 

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