2844 users online now!    CONTACT US | ADVERTISE | REGISTER       

About this Page -- This is a discussion on Who is Valerie Jarrett? Page 4. within the forum Politics. Originally Posted by PKT_VOL According to Plato, the philosophical king would be the most well educated and morally superior person ...

Go Back   VolNation > Off Topic Forums > Politics

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-01-2012, 08:11 PM   #46 (permalink)
Karmic Relief
 
MG1968's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Other Side
Posts: 19,494
Likes: 2,890
Quote:
Originally Posted by PKT_VOL View Post
According to Plato, the philosophical king would be the most well educated and morally superior person within society. He would only care about the interest of the state at large and not about himself. He would be free of vices and full of virtue.



He would not succumb to such vices. He would champion virtues such as temperance and justice.
right
__________________
"I drank what?" - Socrates
MG1968 is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-01-2012, 09:49 PM   #47 (permalink)
Burning time on this site
 
bam15's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: США
Posts: 8,339
Likes: 318
To answer the OP, the Democratic combination of Karen Hughes and Karl Rove of the previous presidency. Albeit behind the scenes to a much larger degree.
bam15 is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-03-2012, 04:49 PM   #48 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
gsvol's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 14,180
Likes: 298
Quote:
Originally Posted by PKT_VOL View Post
I don't care. He is an incumbent. I look at his record in office not his "mentors" for the basis of my judgement.

I will say, I wish he was more honest about being a socialist. I understand why he doesn't for political reasons, but it makes him that much more disingenuous.

My point was to say you care a lot about economic freedom. That is admirable. However, the Republicans love to tell you how you ought to live. That is large encroachment of personal freedom. If you care about all types of freedom, why are you a conservative?
His record in office is one of complete and utter failure.

When he surrounds himself with socialists and tries to implement socialist programs at every turn, one must surmise that is just what he intends, no matter how much he denies it.

There is no economic freedom under socialism.

Just how do the republicans tell you how you ought to live any more than the dhimmirats do?
gsvol is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-03-2012, 05:02 PM   #49 (permalink)
THE #1 COLLEGE DIFFENCE
 
KingNick865's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: A place somewhere
Posts: 14,070
Likes: 917
Quote:
Originally Posted by PKT_VOL View Post
Not a fan of Plato?
My mistake. I just saw the word "philosopher king" and had flashbacks to my readings of what the ancient Greek philosophers thought of as an ideal form over government.
KingNick865 is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-04-2012, 03:18 PM   #50 (permalink)
Veni, Vidi, Vici
 
PKT_VOL's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Metro Atlanta
Posts: 12,384
Likes: 3,807
Quote:
Originally Posted by KingNick865 View Post
My mistake. I just saw the word "philosopher king" and had flashbacks to my readings of what the ancient Greek philosophers thought of as an ideal form over government.
You were right about it being Plato. My question was in response to your "eh" comment. Didn't know if it was positive "eh" or a disapproving "eh".
PKT_VOL is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-04-2012, 04:28 PM   #51 (permalink)
THE #1 COLLEGE DIFFENCE
 
KingNick865's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: A place somewhere
Posts: 14,070
Likes: 917
Quote:
Originally Posted by PKT_VOL View Post
You were right about it being Plato. My question was in response to your "eh" comment. Didn't know if it was positive "eh" or a disapproving "eh".
It was positive.
KingNick865 is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-04-2012, 08:02 PM   #52 (permalink)
Stir Stick
 
82_VOL_83's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Knoxvegas
Posts: 12,339
Likes: 4,373
Quote:
Originally Posted by PKT_VOL View Post
You were right about it being Plato. My question was in response to your "eh" comment. Didn't know if it was positive "eh" or a disapproving "eh".
Dang, can't one just "eh" anymore without having to be positive or negative?









J/K Pkt
__________________
Anyone can achieve their fullest potential, who we are might be predetermined, but the path we follow is always of our own choosing. We should never allow our fears or the expectations of others to set the frontiers of our destiny. Your destiny can't be changed but, it can be challenged. Every man is born as many men and dies as a single one.
82_VOL_83 is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-04-2012, 09:21 PM   #53 (permalink)
Veni, Vidi, Vici
 
PKT_VOL's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Metro Atlanta
Posts: 12,384
Likes: 3,807
Quote:
Originally Posted by TNGlen View Post
Dang, can't one just "eh" anymore without having to be positive or negative?









J/K Pkt
Lol, glen. You never know.

Question everything.
PKT_VOL is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-04-2012, 11:38 PM   #54 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
gsvol's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 14,180
Likes: 298
"The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody had decided not to see."
Ayn Rand

What is Obama's 2012 campaign slogan?

"Forward."

This has been a socialist motto since the 1800s.

Obama Had Long Close Connection to Bill Ayers Father: Obama Slogan ‘Forward’ – Marxist Communist Roots | Maggie's Notebook

Quote:
Remember Obama saying Domestic Terrorist, Weatherman Bill Ayers, was "just a guy in the neighborhood?" Even the most ardent Obama supporter can't swallow that almost four years after his reign began. They might ignore it, but they know it's a big "effing" deal, as the current Vice President of the United States might say. The following points to the incontrovertible truth that Obama's 2012 campaign slogan "Forward," is a Socialist, Marxist, Communist mantra used for at least, close to 100 years. A very close relationship between Bill Ayers' father, Tom Ayers to Obama mentor Frank Marshall Davis is revealed, with Tom Ayers instrumental in getting Obama a job in Chicago. You'll read that Wikipedia, upon the launch of the Obama "Forward" campaign, scrubbed all references and connections to "Forward" and Marxism origins.

Portions of the following are taken from a Glenn Beck video, dated May 2012 and other sources. The Beck video is fairly long, so you can find my summation and a snippet of transcript several paragraphs down.


The word "Forward," Obama's 2012 campaign slogan carries a special meaning in socialist political terminology. It has been frequently used as a name for socialist, communist and other left-wing newspapers and publications. The slogan "Forward" is a nod to yesteryear and all that Obama's Dad had dreams of and Obama received dreams from.

The slogan "Forward!" reflected the conviction of European Marxists and radicals that their movements reflected the march of history, which would move forward past capitalism and into socialism and communism...

There have been at least two radical-left publications named "Vorwaerts" (the German word for "Forward"). One was the daily newspaper of the Social Democratic Party of Germany whose writers included Friedrich Engels and Leon Trotsky. It still publishes as the organ of Germany's SDP, though that party has changed considerably since World War II. Another was the 1844 biweekly reader of the Communist League. Karl Marx, Engels and Mikhail Bakunin are among the names associated with that publication.
-----------------------

So Tom Ayers was a close friend of Frank Marshall Davis. According to Beck, Tom Ayers helped Obama "break into the Chicago scene," where Frank Marshall Davis now lived and was active with the Chicago Communist party.

Beck points to the absurdity of Obama being appointed to the Board of the Annenberg Challenge with Tom Ayers assistance, but claims to not have known Bill Ayers (he was just a guy in the neighborhood) who hosted an Obama campaign event in his own home. Also NEVER discussed is that the terrorist Bill Ayers and Obama shared an office for three years while working with the Annenberg Challenge - not to mention the millions of Annenberg money Obama funneled to Ayers' Small Schools project.
------------------------

"Forward" is a popular Socialist slogan as well.

It was used by the Leading Light Communist Organization. It was used by Mao, the Great Leap Forward - which killed 45 Million people in 4 years. Lenin used it as propaganda - Forward for the Motherland...
-----------------------

Not to be forgotten is Obama's directorship of the Joyce Foundation which spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to influence the Supreme Court on Second Amendment decisions - bottom line, influencing the neutering of gun ownership rights. Valerie Jarrett, the "other half of Barack's brain," served on the Board of the Joyce Foundation. She lived next-door to the boy she eventually married. His father was a Communist youth leader and became her father-in-law.



The Hitler youth also sang a song; Vorwärts! Vorwärts! (forward forward)

gsvol is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-05-2012, 03:52 PM   #55 (permalink)
Veni, Vidi, Vici
 
PKT_VOL's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Metro Atlanta
Posts: 12,384
Likes: 3,807
We already know he is socialist.

If your insinuation is true, it is darkly cleaver.

I tend to think it had no direct linkage.
PKT_VOL is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-25-2012, 02:53 PM   #56 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
gsvol's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 14,180
Likes: 298
Blog: Missing piece surfaces in the Obama puzzle (updated)

Quote:
Students of Obama's rise have long been intrigued by a television interview granted by Percy Sutton, the borough president of Manhattan, and one of the most influential black politicians in New York City, in which he stated that:

he had been introduced to Obama "by a friend who was raising money for him. The friend's name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas. He is the principal adviser to one of the world's richest men. He told me about Obama." (snip)

He also revealed that he had first heard about Obama 20 years previously in a letter where al-Mansour wrote, "there is a young man that has applied to Harvard. I know that you have a few friends up there because you used to go up there to speak. Would you please write a letter in support of him?"

Sutton concluded in the interview, "I wrote a letter of support of him to my friends at Harvard, saying to them I thought there was a genius that was going to be available and I certainly hoped they would treat him kindly."

At the time the interview was granted in 2008, the Obama campaign succeeded in keeping it out of the mainstream media by having family members put out the story that Sutton in essence was a doddering old man. That's all the media lackeys needed as an excuse to consign the interview to the memory hole, protecting the American public from any disturbing connections of President Obama to the Saudis.
----------------------------------

Frank Miele, of the Daily Inter-Lake newspaper was reading through old newspaper and came across a syndicated column written by a Chicago Tribune columnist in 1979 that provides a fascinating light on the nature of the cabal that seems to have formed around Barack Obama.

So far as I know, this 1979 column has not previously been brought to light, but it certainly should be because it broke some very interesting news about the "rumored billions of dollars the oil-rich Arab nations are supposed to unload on American black leaders and minority institutions." The columnist quoted a black San Francisco lawyer who said, "It's not just a rumor. Aid will come from some of the Arab states."

Well, if anyone would know, it would have been this lawyer - Donald Warden, who had helped defend OPEC in an antitrust suit that year and had developed significant ties with the Saudi royal family since becoming a Muslim and taking the name Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour.

Al-Mansour told Jarrett that he had presented the "proposed special aid program to OPEC Secretary-General Rene Ortiz" in September 1979, and that "the first indications of Arab help to American blacks may be announced in December." Maybe so, but I looked high and wide in newspapers in 1979 and 1980 for any other stories about this aid package funded by OPEC and never found it verified.

You would think that a program to spend "$20 million per year for 10 years to aid 10,000 minority students each year, including blacks, Arabs, Hispanics, Asians and native Americans" would be referred to somewhere other than one obscure 1979 column, but I haven't found any other word of it.
---------------------------

The kicker here is that the 1979 column was written by none other than Vernon Jarrett, longtime influential Chicago black leftist, close friend of Frank Marshall Davis, and father-in-law of Valerie Jarrett, the closest aide to President Obama, and a major figure in his rise within the Chicago political world.
gsvol is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-26-2012, 04:06 AM   #57 (permalink)
Senior Member

Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,226
Likes: 1,098
Quote:
Originally Posted by volfanjustin View Post
As much as he says "I" or "me" when talking about the raid I am convinced Barry flew the chopper, propelled out of it and killed Bin Laden himself.
How many stupid things can you say in one thread?
Vol Main is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-26-2012, 04:23 AM   #58 (permalink)
Senior Member

Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,226
Likes: 1,098
Just another red herring to divert from the real truth, that Romney's cabal of foreign policy advisers spring from the same school of Leon Trotsky loving Neoconservatives which manipulated Georg Bush like a puppet on a string. If you don't know that, why don't you? Don't you even care that our foreign policy was dominated by people from a long line of dedicated communists? That is what you plan to support with your votes, and you probably do not even know it.
Vol Main is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-26-2012, 04:26 AM   #59 (permalink)
RIP CITY
 
milohimself's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Oregon
Posts: 48,909
Likes: 2,280
milohimself is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 09-26-2012, 04:29 PM   #60 (permalink)
Veni, Vidi, Vici
 
PKT_VOL's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Metro Atlanta
Posts: 12,384
Likes: 3,807
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vol Main View Post
Just another red herring to divert from the real truth, that Romney's cabal of foreign policy advisers spring from the same school of Leon Trotsky loving Neoconservatives which manipulated Georg Bush like a puppet on a string. If you don't know that, why don't you? Don't you even care that our foreign policy was dominated by people from a long line of dedicated communists? That is what you plan to support with your votes, and you probably do not even know it.
Hey now, let's not hate on Leon Trotsky. One of my favorite quotes ever comes from him. "Everything is relative".
PKT_VOL is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27