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Old 06-24-2012, 11:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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BBC News - Muslim Brotherhood's Mursi declared Egypt president

I hate seeing Americans moan about who Egyptians voted for, congrats on finally voting guys. I guess Americans only support democracy when it suits American interests.
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So much for Obama's support for "Arab Spring" and for middle east peace. Of course smart people understand that Islam does not want peace and that the religion's followers want Israel destroyed. Why do Liberals overwhelmingly support the muslim cause to destroy Israel?

New Egyptian President Says That Jerusalem Shall Be Our New Capital Allah Willing
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Is the egyptian military going to transfer power?
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So much for Obama's support for "Arab Spring" and for middle east peace. Of course smart people understand that Islam does not want peace and that the religion's followers want Israel destroyed. Why do Liberals overwhelmingly support the muslim cause to destroy Israel?

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why do some americans only support representative government only when it suits our country's interests?
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So much for Obama's support for "Arab Spring" and for middle east peace. Of course smart people understand that Islam does not want peace and that the religion's followers want Israel destroyed. Why do Liberals overwhelmingly support the muslim cause to destroy Israel?

New Egyptian President Says That Jerusalem Shall Be Our New Capital Allah Willing
I support no such cause; however, I do not support defending Israel, either. Let Israel take care of itself. If it can, good on it; if it cannot, then it will either be destroyed or it will have to negotiate.

Either way, not our problem.
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They did dissolve parliament & assumed legislative powers. I really assumed they would rig the election in favor of the old regime hold over in Shafiq.
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So much for Obama's support for "Arab Spring" and for middle east peace. Of course smart people understand that Islam does not want peace and that the religion's followers want Israel destroyed. Why do Liberals overwhelmingly support the muslim cause to destroy Israel?

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I support freedom & democracy. The Muslim Brotherhood was the party the average Egyptian voted for so I have no right to say anything. I do not support the destruction of Israel either.
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So much for Obama's support for "Arab Spring" and for middle east peace. Of course smart people understand that Islam does not want peace and that the religion's followers want Israel destroyed. Why do Liberals overwhelmingly support the muslim cause to destroy Israel?

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"Liberals" don't "support the Muslim cause.". Rather, educated people understand that both sides will have to give up a lot of what they want in order to achieve a lasting solution.

Muslims who insist on pushing out all Jews are wrong, as are Jews who insist on pushing out all Muslims. As long as both sides' political leadership has that position, then no lasting peace will be had.

It is not weak to say that. It is accurate.
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Is Egypt a world power? I don't really care as long as they're not harboring terrorist groups to freely train and plot attacks against the West.

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I support no such cause; however, I do not support defending Israel, either. Let Israel take care of itself. If it can, good on it; if it cannot, then it will either be destroyed or it will have to negotiate.

Either way, not our problem.
This.

You're driving me crazy, I either vehemently disagree or I am completely on board with your opinions. There is no middle ground.
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This.

You're driving me crazy, I either vehemently disagree or I am completely on board with your opinions. There is no middle ground.
I get this a lot; this is what makes me think I might have success publishing one day.
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"Liberals" don't "support the Muslim cause.". Rather, educated people understand that both sides will have to give up a lot of what they want in order to achieve a lasting solution.

Muslims who insist on pushing out all Jews are wrong, as are Jews who insist on pushing out all Muslims. As long as both sides' political leadership has that position, then no lasting peace will be had.

It is not weak to say that. It is accurate.
All Jews were expelled from moslem countries in 1948,
all there property was confiscated.

When have Jews ever expelled moslems from anywhere.

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Is Egypt a world power? I don't really care as long as they're not harboring terrorist groups to freely train and plot attacks against the West.

carry on..
The muslim brotherhood is the mother of all moslem
terrorist groups, inclucing but not exclusive to al-qaeda,
hamas, hezbollah and the talibanis.

On the grand chessboard, while we are patroling the
pakistani-afghan border, hezbollah and others are
infiltrating into America from Mexico and Canada.






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BBC News - Muslim Brotherhood's Mursi declared Egypt president

I hate seeing Americans moan about who Egyptians voted for, congrats on finally voting guys. I guess Americans only support democracy when it suits American interests.

Pundit Press: Flashback- W.H.: Muslim Brotherhood "Secular," Won't Seek Presidency

In February of last year, the White House was very
busy giving the Muslim Brotherhood free PR. This prompted the Telegraph to write an article entitled,
"The Muslim Brotherhood gets a PR makeover from
the Obama administration."

In the piece, Administration officials are quoted as
saying that the Muslim Brotherhood is a "largely
secular" organisation that "eschewed violence."
Today, after winning the Presidency, the M.B.
declared that, "Allah willing," their new capital
would be in Jerusalem. Something tells me that
they are planning something that does not
"eschew violence."

And the most ironic piece of news is that, back
when the White House was giving the Brotherhood
free publicity, the M.B. decided to declare that they
would not seek the Egyptian Presidency. The White
House welcomed the news. And this is the most ironic
screenshot of the day (click on the image for better
quality):



Cleric Introduces Egypt's New President: Our Capital 'Shall Be Jerusalem, Allah Willing'

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gs claims that the Muslim is a terrorist because all of them are.

What Muslim, you ask ? Which one ?

All of them.
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gs claims that the Muslim is a terrorist because all of them are.

What Muslim, you ask ? Which one ?

All of them.
I suppose my earlier reply to you was moved or deleted
by one of our PC oriented monitors, an increasingly more
often occurance these days.

You might say common, in more ways than one.

Where is it that the Jews have expelled moslems from again?

I didn't catch that.

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The documents requested by Rep. Gohmert for the past year were
provided to the Holy Land Foundation's defense team, yet are
being denied to Congress. "They are terrorists, and we wanted
the documents you gave to the terrorists. We are a year later,
and we still don't have them," complained Rep. Gohmert. Holder
replied that he'd only provide what is already available
publicly.


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AG Eric Holder is under investigation for the Fast and Furious
scandal. But there’s another Holder scandal even worse.

For over one year, he has refused to hand
over documents about the Muslim Brotherhood
network in the U.S.


Why would he do that?
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Rep. Gohmert is one of five members of Congress requesting
investigations into the influence of Muslim Brotherhood-tied
organizations and individuals in the U.S. government.
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The documents were originally requested on April 27, 2011 after
reporter Patrick Poole broke the blockbuster story at Pajamas
Media that Justice Department political appointees blocked the prosecution of one CAIR co-founder and, according to his
high-level Justice Department source, other groups and
individuals listed as "unindicted co-conspirators."

Poole learned that Assistant Attorney General David Kris wrote
a memo dated March 31, 2010 titled, "Declination of Prosecution
of Omar Ahmad," an individual who was present at a Muslim
Brotherhood meeting in Philadelphia in 1993 to discuss how to
support Hamas. The idea to create a new group was put forward
at this meeting and Ahmad co-founded CAIR the next year. Ahmad
was also personally listed as an "unindicted co-conspirator"
in the Holy Land trial. The given reason to drop the prosecution
was potential jury nullification but the source is certain that
it was a political decision.

According to Poole's source, "It was always the plan to
initially go after the [HLF] leaders first and then go after
the rest of the accomplices in a second round of prosecutions."
The original trial resulted in a mistrial, pushing back the
planned prosecutions.

The Obama Administration then came into
office and they were stopped.

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Rep. Peter King confirmed that FBI officials and the U.S.
Attorney's Office in Texas, which prosecuted the Holy Land
Foundation, were ready to begin the second round of prosecutions
and were outraged at how the political
appointees stopped them.


Congressional sources later told Poole that Assistant Attorney
General David Kris also dropped the prosecution of several
officials involved with the International Institute of Islamic
Thought, a Muslim Brotherhood front, and the SAAR
Foundation/SAFA Group, which has disbanded since the federal
government raided their offices. They were to be prosecuted on
charges related to tax evasion and money laundering because Sami
al-Arian, a Palestinian Islamic Jihad leader in the U.S.,
refused to testify and reveal their terrorist connections.
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Rep. Gohmert slammed Holder for not prosecuting these groups and
individuals when there is a "mountain of evidence" against them.
He further revealed that "at least one of which now says it is
working inside your [Holder's] agency
to help advise on the purge of counter-
terrorism training materials."

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Fast and the Furious isn't the only controversy Holder is
refusing to show documents about, but it's probably the
only one you're hearing about.

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Where is it that the Jews have expelled moslems from again?
Non-Jewish Arabs were forcibly evicted from West Jerusalem in 1948-49.

Moreover, the Jews claimed, commandeered, and marked off the historical grazing lands throughout the region; this land was, for thousands of years, the path of Arab nomads, who we now refer to as Palestinians. Again, we might as well say that the US did not take any land from the Sioux and the Comanche, since those were nomadic tribes.

Finally, the end-goal of Zionism is to rebuild the Temple; this, of course, involves destroying the Dome of the Rock.
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