Holder contempt, executive privilege

[tim]

Originally Posted by tkemo

Why don't reasonable black people stand up against this guy? He hurts their cause so much more than he helps.

I think it is because a majority of black folks agree with him.

[gsvol]

Text found the stimulus package:

For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance’, $40,000,000, for competitive grants to provide assistance and equipment to local law enforcement along the Southern border and in High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas to combat criminal narcotics activity stemming from the Southern border, of which $10,000,000 shall be transferred to ‘Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Salaries and Expenses’ for the ATF Project Gunrunner.

Notice that's $40,000,000 for Southern border enforcement, $10,000,000 of which specifically for Project Gunrunner. What does $10 million pay for here?



Source claims ATF's Tampa SAC walked guns to Honduras - National gun rights | Examiner.com

On 21 September, 2010, A. Brian Albritton, United States Attorney for the Middle District of Florida issued a press release on Operation Castaway:

United States Attorney A. Brian Albritton, Virginia O’Brien, Special Agent in Charge of central and northern Florida Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) operations, and Susan McCormick, Special Agent in Charge, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Homeland Security Investigations, Tampa Field Office announce the initial results of Operation Castaway, an intensive and wideranging Organized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) firearms trafficking investigation conducted by ATF, ICE, the Orange County Sheriff’s Office, the Osceola County Sheriff’s Office, the Brevard County Sheriff’s Office, and the Miami-Dade Police Department. ATF describes Operation Castaway as the most significant firearms trafficking investigation in Central Florida history.
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SAC O’Brien was previously the Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix Field Division, was later promoted to the Deputy Assistant Director of ATF, but then stepped down to the position in Tampa. Whether the allegations of our source refer to the ongoing Operation Castaway remains at this hour unclear, but our source is certain that O'Brien has allowed the "walking" of straw-purchased firearms to Honduras using the same failed strategy as the Phoenix Field Division's Operation Fast and Furious. That Operation Castaway involved arms smuggling to Honduras is also certain.

The guns and ammo allowed to walk in the castaway program ultimately ended up in the hands of the notorious M-13 gang in Honduras.

And remeber, Barry and Hitlery did their best to assist a marxist take over the presidency of Honduras on a permanent basis.

Obama Orders Launched Fast And Furious « Pat Dollard

We are only dealing with Fast and Furious, run out of the Phoenix, Arizona office but this was one of several programs in the border states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California.

Even then as we see, another program, code named 'Castaway' was run out the Tampa, Florida office that neccessarily involved the US State Department.

There was a program in Indiana that supplied guns to drug trafficer thugs and street gangs in Chicago and another that supplied guns to the same sort in Philidelphia incuding new panther party members.

It's no wonder Holder would rather go to jail that reveal any more, this whole thing was run directly out of the white house and the whole administration is on the verge of unravelling like a cheap sweater.

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Originally Posted by dreVol

maybe the Obama campaign team thinks F&F is a good distraction from Obama's disastrous economic policies.

That's what some people are saying.

Personally I'm more concerned with his idotic foreign policy.

Starting with his first televised speech in office with his questionable demands from the Egyptian government and degenerating into insanity after that.

Conservative Nation News: Egyptian Terror Group Member Met With Senior Obama Officials

The State Department said Friday it is looking into how a self-professed member of a banned Egyptian terrorist organization was issued a U.S. visa and traveled to Washington this week for meetings with senior Obama administration officials.

Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said the "circumstances of this particular case" were being reviewed.

They need to review every particular case imho.

Fast and Furious has been a great cementer of good relations with our nest door neighbor Mexico, NOT!

Originally Posted by Redstater

Here you have the last word - It's Bush's fault.

“This Fast and Furious debacle started under the Bush administration,” Jackson Lee declared. “And it is been evidenced by various reports that it started under the ATL office in Arizona unbeknownst to leadership in Washington DC, at least leadership that came in under the Obama administration in this instance, Eric Holder.”

Is there a greater buffoon in DC?

Al Sharpton?

Transsylvania Phoenix: Differences between Bush's "Wide Receiver" and Obama's "Fast & Furious" explained for stupid liberals:

Wide Receiver - The number of guns used in the operation from the beginning until the end of the operation was 300
Fast & Furious - The number of guns used in the operation from the beginning until the end of the operation was 2,000

Wide Receiver - Guns were traced with miniature GPS devices inserted inside the guns
Fast & Furious - No tracking devices were used


Wide Receiver - ATF agents were ordered to follow the gun smugglers from the gun store to the US/Mexico border.
Fast & Furious - ATF agents were ordered to stand down and not follow the gun smugglers after they left the gun store


Wide Receiver - Mexican army and police was in the loop about Wide Receiver. They took over the surveillance of the gun smugglers after they crossed with the guns in Mexico.
Fast & Furious - Mexican authorities were kept in the dark by the ATF and the US DOJ. They had no idea about Fast & Furious and the fact that guns provided to gun smugglers by the American authorities were "walked" in Mexico into the hands of drug cartel murderers.

Wide Receiver - When a small number of guns (30-40) were lost due to the malfunctioning GPS tracking devices operation Wide Receiver was immediately aborted and cancelled
Fast and Furious - Operation continued even after ATF and DOJ lost track of all 2,000 guns sold to Mexican drug cartels

Wide Receiver - The operation was planned in such a way the gun smugglers and their cargo were kept under surveillance step by step, from the gun store to the US/Mexico border, across the border into Mexico and to their final destination: the hands of the drug cartel killers. This could have led to arrests made in joint operations by the Mexican authorities and DEA and ATF agents.
Fast & Furious - The operation was planned to let the guns go without any surveillance. Guns were supposed to be recovered at the murder scenes. One of the 150+ murder scenes where Fast & Furious guns were recovered was that of US border patrol agent Brian Terry. So far DOJ and ATF didn't came with any explanation about how they were planning to make arrests of the drug cartel murderers BEFORE THEY KILLED PEOPLE with the Fast & Furious guns, and how they were supposed to do those arrest in Mexico without the Mexican authorities knowing anything about this operation.

Originally Posted by volinbham

Funny how she thinks this looks good for her.

Not surprising though, the richest congressman (who has ripped the public off for tens of billions of dollars) thinks botox will make her look like John Kerry.

Originally Posted by tim

I think it is because a majority of black folks agree with him.

Well those who have succumbed to generations of propaganda may but many havn't.

[gsvol]

Originally Posted by Gramps

This is a tactic they all use. Here's a look at how many times each president since Ronald Reagan have asserted executive privilege:
President Barack Obama: 1
President George W. Bush: 6
President Bill Clinton: 14
President George H.W. Bush: 1
President Ronald Reagan: 3

Slick Willie loved to invoke it.
GW also enjoyed using it.

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

Who invoked it over an issue about which they disavowed any knowledge?

Originally Posted by Redstater

Here you have the last word - It's Bush's fault.

“This Fast and Furious debacle started under the Bush administration,” Jackson Lee declared. “And it is been evidenced by various reports that it started under the ATL office in Arizona unbeknownst to leadership in Washington DC, at least leadership that came in under the Obama administration in this instance, Eric Holder.”

Is there a greater buffoon in DC?

The simple answer is YES!



"The smartest decision I ever made was to choose Joe Biden as my vice president."
Barack Hussein Obama.

Originally Posted by BearCat204

World would be a better place without Sharpton imo

So you are saying Sharpton should be eliminated?

Do you suggest the use of a drone?

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This makes Holder's defense look like this:



Obama has stepped out of the frying pan into the fire
by invoking executive priviledge.

If you can't make them see the light, make them feel
the heat.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/darrell...-215828-1.html

ccording to the letter, the wiretap applications contained
a startling amount of detail about the operation, which
would have tipped off anyone who read them closely about
what tactics were being used.

Holder and Cummings have both maintained that the
wiretap applications did not contain such details and
that the applications were reviewed narrowly for
probable cause, not for whether any investigatory
tactics contained followed Justice Department policy.

The wiretap applications were signed by senior DOJ
officials in the department’s criminal division, including
Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein,
Deputy Assistant Attorney General Kenneth Blanco and
another official who is now deceased.

In Fast and Furious, agents for the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed assault guns
bought by “straw purchasers” to “walk,” which meant
ending surveillance on weapons suspected to be en
route to Mexican drug cartels.

The tactic, which was intended to allow agents to track
criminal networks by finding the guns at crime scenes,
was condemned after two guns that were part of the
operation were found at U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian
Terry’s murder scene.

Straw purchasers are individuals who buy guns on behalf
of criminals, obscuring who is buying the weapons.

While Issa has since said he has obtained a number of
wiretap applications, the letter only refers to one, from
March 15, 2010. The full application is not included in
what Issa entered into the Congressional Record, and
names are obscured in Issa’s letter.

In the application, ATF agents included transcripts from
a wiretap intercept from a previous Drug Enforcement
Administration investigation that demonstrated the
suspects were part of a gun-smuggling ring.

“The wiretap affidavit details that agents were well
aware that large sums of money were being used to
purchase a large number of firearms, many of which
were flowing across the border,” the letter says.

The application included details such as how many guns
specific suspects had purchased via straw purchasers
and how many of those guns had been recovered in
Mexico.

It also described how ATF officials watched guns bought
by suspected straw purchasers but then ended their
surveillance without interdicting the guns.

In at least one instance, the guns were recovered at
a police stop at the U.S.-Mexico border the next day.

The application included financial details for four
suspected straw purchasers showing they had
purchased $373,000 worth of guns in cash but reported
almost no income for the previous year, the letter says.

“Although ATF was aware of these facts,
no one was arrested, and ATF failed to even
approach the straw purchasers.

Upon learning these details through its review of this
wiretap affidavit, senior Justice Department officials
had a duty to stop this operation. Further, failure to
do so was a violation of Justice Department policy,”
the letter says.

Holder declined to discuss the contents of the
applications at a House Judiciary Committee hearing
June 7 but said the applications were narrowly reviewed
for whether there was probable cause to obtain a
wiretap application.

Revealed secret wiretap tapes trouble for Attorney General Eric Holder and DOJ - San Antonio Headlines | Examiner.com

Issa Puts Wiretap Details in Congressional Record | The Weekly Standard

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Originally Posted by lawgator1

tl;dr

Does that mean something or have you gone spastic?

ATF Directors “Acting” Since 2006: Democrats Want Anti-Gun Nominees | Maggie's Notebook

Democrats want anti-gun leadership at ATF - by the nature of what is legal and what is not, promoting an anti-gun-stance Agency Director is a Constitutional conflict. If proof of criminality isn't there, the BATFE-ATF will hound you anyway. For years, the ATF was under the Treasury Department. In 2006, a new law placed the ATF under the Justice Department, with the Directorship requiring the confirmation of Congress. And since 2006 and the new law, we haven't had a single successful confirmation. Every Director since that time has been an "acting" director.
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When Ken Melson, the acting director during the period of Fast and Furious was forced to resign, Barack Obama nominated Andrew Travers (Nov. 2010). Congress sent the nomination back to him. He resubmitted Travers' name, and it remains sitting in the Senate Judiciary Committee, where they likely do not have the votes to stop the debate and vote.

Traver is anti-gun and anti-Second Amendment Rights. He is allegedly a member of the anti-gun International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP), has an anti-assault rifle stance, conveniently confuses assault rifles with machine guns, signed-off on the Liberal Joyce Foundation study, and has received the NRA’s “strong” opposition.

But the idea of an ATF director who hails from Chicago, a city without gun shops, and who has conflated black market automatic weapons with legal semi-automatic "assault-style" rifles is causing Second Amendment defenders to worry that President Obama intends to blast away at gun rights by force of bureaucracy, if not law. Source CS Monitor

CS Monitor is another one of those right wing blogs in case anyone here doesn't have the blindfolded insights of LG and milo.

Interesting that Chicago has had a ban on handguns for 28 years, yet for 2009 the murder rate in Chicago is THREE TIMES that of New York City, and crimes in general are twice as violent as in Los Angeles. Only Philadelphia has a higher murder.
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Under Democrat control, taxes protect tobacco and alcohol use - the government has to have the revenue. Under Democrat control, no one but government and criminals will have firearms, if and when a Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid/Barack Obama-type government have a chance to whittle away at firearms, one regulation, one rule, one Executive Order at a time.
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Republican control of both Chambers can give us a Senate-confirmed ATF Director who will respect our rights under the law, not punish us relentlessly for living our lives - with undue paperwork, licenses, and privacy abuses and ATF Agents' noses poked under our tent.

The following is for unreal, milo, lg and anyone else who is still maintaining this is all Bush's fault!


Comprende?

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Sipsey Street Irregulars: Sipsey Street Exclusive: Mike Vanderboegh and David Codrea file ethics complaint on Eric Holder with the D.C. Bar!

Eric Holder believes that he will escape serious consequences of the congressional investigations of the Fast and Furious scandal simply by running out the clock on his tenure. We intend this ethics complaint to place him on notice that his lies and malfeasances will follow him until justice is done.
The particulars of the complaint are included in the letter reproduced below.