Special Dispensation to Punch Your Children

[T-TownVol]

Originally Posted by therealUT

The fact that this Church has more tentacles into society makes it scarier; my assumption that the individuals who attend this church do not view themselves as extremists but as moderates, makes them scarier.

Neither is better or worse than the other, and I do not believe I used such terminology earlier. However, I do find it a scarier notion that this church is not comprised of one clan under an mentally unstable patriarch but is comprised of many distinct families who, I assume, feel that their views are shared by many Christians across the nation.

please do not turn into LG on us

[marcusluvsvols]

While I don't approve of abusing children because of sin, homosexual behavior is just that, sin. I would no more tolerate that behavior than I would any other sin under my roof.
I also support amendment 1 , which will be voted on may 8. Early voting has already begun. In an unprecedented move our fearless leader POTUS has spoken out against an amendment on the state level. It is expected to pass as it has in the other bible belt states. Marriage, in NC, will remain 1 man and 1 woman.
I do not however agree with the statements of this pastor or approve of his behavior.

[Slydell]

Originally Posted by n_huffhines

Preacher is totally gay

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[marcusluvsvols]

Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thine kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.... Jesus taught us the Lords prayer. He said we should seek to do Gods will on earth. God made it clear that homosexuality is a sin. An abomination against God. He defined marriage, what the roles of a man and a woman are...to leave your parents and cleave to your spouse. To love and honor one another. Man and wife.

When I choose to exercise my freedom to vote, and to protect Gods will for the covenant of marriage; that doesn't make me a homophobe. Also doesn't make me hateful, angry, or judgmental. It just makes me something increasingly rare in these last days... loyal and dedicated to my savior. He who kneels before God can stand before any man. I don't judge you bro. Don't judge me.

[Slydell]

Judge, jury and first stone thrower.

[Volst53]

I don't have any issues with you, being against homosexuality. I just don't see why goverment needs to be involved in marriage, but I love freedom and individualism

[OrangeEmpire]

wtf just happened

[therealUT]

Originally Posted by marcusluvsvols

Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thine kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.... Jesus taught us the Lords prayer. He said we should seek to do Gods will on earth. God made it clear that homosexuality is a sin. An abomination against God. He defined marriage, what the roles of a man and a woman are...to leave your parents and cleave to your spouse. To love and honor one another. Man and wife.

When I choose to exercise my freedom to vote, and to protect Gods will for the covenant of marriage; that doesn't make me a homophobe. Also doesn't make me hateful, angry, or judgmental. It just makes me something increasingly rare in these last days... loyal and dedicated to my savior. He who kneels before God can stand before any man. I don't judge you bro. Don't judge me.

Do you think local, state, and federa governments should recognize heterosexual marriages?

[marcusluvsvols]

Originally Posted by therealUT

Do you think local, state, and federa governments should recognize heterosexual marriages?

I think in order to tax us as married couples they have to confirm who is acually married and who is not. I think God laid out very clearly what marriage is and who is involved. 1 man, 1 woman, and Him. 3 way covenant.

I also think measures to slow the slide our country is taking towards complete self serving, worldy lusts fulfilling, instant gratification seeking depravity are always a good idea. I heard a preacher once say that " if God doesn't burn this whole country to the ground then he probably owes sodom and gomorrha an apology." Lot of truth in that. I don't care what people do in their bedrooms. That's their business. Marriage however is a different ballgame. Its already been defined. Gods definitions don't change with the tides like mans morality does.

[Weezer]

Originally Posted by marcusluvsvols

I think in order to tax us as married couples they have to confirm who is acually married and who is not. I think God laid out very clearly what marriage is and who is involved. 1 man, 1 woman, and Him. 3 way covenant.

I also think measures to slow the slide our country is taking towards complete self serving, worldy lusts fulfilling, instant gratification seeking depravity are always a good idea. I heard a preacher once say that " if God doesn't burn this whole country to the ground then he probably owes sodom and gomorrha an apology." Lot of truth in that. I don't care what people do in their bedrooms. That's their business. Marriage however is a different ballgame. Its already been defined. Gods definitions don't change with the tides like mans morality does.

Using "God's" definition of marriage kind of goes against separation of church and state, yes? Call it what you will, but gay couples should be afforded every right that married couples have under the law. "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", ring any bells? No religious group should be making laws that inhibit the freedoms of others. While you are entitled to your opinion, you are not entitled to enforce your opinion on others. While I consider myself a Christian, I find it concerning that so many other "Christians" feel the need to mettle in the lives of others. Imagine if roles were reversed and someone was trying to dictate your way of life. Live and let live. My religion tells me I'm responsible for my life as other people are responsible for theirs.

[therealUT]

Originally Posted by marcusluvsvols

I think in order to tax us as married couples they have to confirm who is acually married and who is not. I think God laid out very clearly what marriage is and who is involved. 1 man, 1 woman, and Him. 3 way covenant.

I also think measures to slow the slide our country is taking towards complete self serving, worldy lusts fulfilling, instant gratification seeking depravity are always a good idea. I heard a preacher once say that " if God doesn't burn this whole country to the ground then he probably owes sodom and gomorrha an apology." Lot of truth in that. I don't care what people do in their bedrooms. That's their business. Marriage however is a different ballgame. Its already been defined. Gods definitions don't change with the tides like mans morality does.

So, your two justifications for this are revenue collection and theocracy?

I see no reason why the government must sanction any marriages. However, it does sanction heterosexual marriages and provides heterosexual married couples with benefits. To not provide these same benefits to homosexual couples is arbitrary and unequal treatment from a non-religious viewpoint.

[OrangeEmpire]

Originally Posted by therealUT

So, your two justifications for this are revenue collection and theocracy?

I see no reason why the government must sanction any marriages. However, it does sanction heterosexual marriages and provides heterosexual married couples with benefits. To not provide these same benefits to homosexual couples is arbitrary and unequal treatment from a non-religious viewpoint.

Preach sir!

[volfanjustin]

Originally Posted by Weezer

Using "God's" definition of marriage kind of goes against separation of church and state, yes? Call it what you will, but gay couples should be afforded every right that married couples have under the law. "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", ring any bells? No religious group should be making laws that inhibit the freedoms of others. While you are entitled to your opinion, you are not entitled to enforce your opinion on others. While I consider myself a Christian, I find it concerning that so many other "Christians" feel the need to mettle in the lives of others. Imagine if roles were reversed and someone was trying to dictate your way of life. Live and let live. My religion tells me I'm responsible for my life as other people are responsible for theirs.

Show me where you find this separation of church and state. I will help you, there is no such thing. How are religious groups making laws when it's the people of NC voting on this law?

[Danl]

Originally Posted by volfanjustin

Show me where you find this separation of church and state. I will help you, there is no such thing. How are religious groups making laws when it's the people of NC voting on this law?

So these "people of NC" who are pushing these laws don't comprise religious groups? GTFO

Just more American Taliban BS.

[utvolpj]

Originally Posted by volfanjustin

Show me where you find this separation of church and state. I will help you, there is no such thing. How are religious groups making laws when it's the people of NC voting on this law?

I'll show you separation of C&S when you point out God in the Constitution.