A new low in American politics

[slh1089]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

Romney was asked if he would have ordered the raid that killed bin Laden.

He said "Of course I would."

Fair enough. Might be true. It is the expected response.

But then he did something so incredibly insulting and mean spirited I hope the board will join me in universally condemning it.

He added, with a smile, "Even Carter would have."

Eight brave servicemen died in that failed mission. For Romney to have intentionally invoked that for political purposes and to tie it to Obama .... Just despicable.

And you blame a large amount of people on here for nit-picking at Obama. In the immortal words of Chris Carter, "Come on MAAAN."

[VolsSportsFan]

This a new low in fake outrage for you lg.

[LittleCat]

Carter tried the right thing imo. They just failed and unlike usual American policy, they didn't cover it up at all.

Don't see what's wrong with what Romney said.

[VolsNSkinsFan]

Swing and a miss

[lawgator1]

Originally Posted by BigPapaCat

Carter tried the right thing imo. They just failed and unlike usual American policy, they didn't cover it up at all.

Don't see what's wrong with what Romney said.

Interesting.

Because if memory serves that failure was a prime reason Carter lost. And yet, today, the Republicans bend over backwards to minimize Obama's success with bin Laden.

It goes poorly and its fair game for defeating a Democrat incumbent president.

But it goes well, and the incumbent Democrat is just playing politics.

[LittleCat]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

Interesting.

Because if memory serves that failure was a prime reason Carter lost. And yet, today, the Republicans bend over backwards to minimize Obama's success with bin Laden.

It goes poorly and its fair game for defeating a Democrat incumbent president.

But it goes well, and the incumbent Democrat is just playing politics.

From what I understand, he decided to do a rescue attempt, the helicopters had issues the whole time and couldn't do the mission. They accidentally crashed and the americans ran away leaving the wreckage and bodies behind. But that wasn't the only thing Carter was criticized for.He boycotted the Olympics, made trade-relations w/ china, gas prices rose, and he was made to look like an idiot by Iran. Not to mention he ran against Reagan...one of the most popular presidents ever. Reagan wasn't called the Teflon President for nothing.

[GAVol]

Originally Posted by VolsSportsFan

This a new low in fake outrage for you lg.

I think by now he's elevated it to an art form.

[milohimself]

A new low for the VN politics forum.

[tumscalcium]

Originally Posted by milohimself

A new low for the VN politics forum.

That's really, really saying something. haha

[KentheOrange]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

Interesting.

Because if memory serves that failure was a prime reason Carter lost. And yet, today, the Republicans bend over backwards to minimize Obama's success with bin Laden.

It goes poorly and its fair game for defeating a Democrat incumbent president.

But it goes well, and the incumbent Democrat is just playing politics.

Memory has failed you. The prime interest rate during the last six months before the election in 1980 was about 14%. In the words of James Carville, "It's the economy stupid."

Prime interest hit it's all time high in December, 1980 of 21.5 % and slowly fell from there.

[dave956]

The problem with Romney's statement is that as usual it totally contradicts statements he made in 2007-08. Who would have thought?

Contrary to popular opinion around here, the President stated during his campaign what he would do foreign policy wise and militarily, including if he had the opprtunity to fo something like the OBL raid. President Obama has been remarkably consistent in fulfilling these promises. Ex-SECDEF Gates has stated that it's one of the gutsiest decisions he's seen a President make. And he served in what, five or six administrations?

I guess it wouldn't be tacky if Mr. Obama hopped on an aircraft carrier, stuffed his crotch full of socks, stood I'm front of a giant "Mission Accomplished" banner babbling pidgin English. Much more tasteful. Except of course having the balls to actually accomplished the mission. THE NERVE!!!

And just for the record, President Carter was anything but weak. He knew more about command than any other President save Ike. Annapolis grad, submarine commander and was cleared for command of nuclear subs when he left the service to go home to run the farm. He too had the guts to order that raid to free the hostages. Not his fault it didn't work. He inherited an insanely bad economy (we had wrestled with high inflation and interest rates for YEARS). That by the way persisted well in Reagan's first term. Most of all, and a big part of his downfall was his habit of insisting that the American people sacrifice, actually make lifestyle changes to solve various problems, notably the energy shortages of the Seventies. He is a good man who served IMHO quite ably in a really effed up time. After all, Bill Battle was head coach when he was elected. LOL

[milohimself]

^ Prepare to be crucified.

[OrangeEmpire]

Save Ike?

Really?

[golfballs]

Originally Posted by dave956

The problem with Romney's statement is that as usual it totally contradicts statements he made in 2007-08. Who would have thought?

Contrary to popular opinion around here, the President stated during his campaign what he would do foreign policy wise and militarily, including if he had the opprtunity to fo something like the OBL raid. President Obama has been remarkably consistent in fulfilling these promises. Ex-SECDEF Gates has stated that it's one of the gutsiest decisions he's seen a President make. And he served in what, five or six administrations?

I guess it wouldn't be tacky if Mr. Obama hopped on an aircraft carrier, stuffed his crotch full of socks, stood I'm front of a giant "Mission Accomplished" banner babbling pidgin English. Much more tasteful. Except of course having the balls to actually accomplished the mission. THE NERVE!!!

And just for the record, President Carter was anything but weak. He knew more about command than any other President save Ike. Annapolis grad, submarine commander and was cleared for command of nuclear subs when he left the service to go home to run the farm. He too had the guts to order that raid to free the hostages. Not his fault it didn't work. He inherited an insanely bad economy (we had wrestled with high inflation and interest rates for YEARS). That by the way persisted well in Reagan's first term. Most of all, and a big part of his downfall was his habit of insisting that the American people sacrifice, actually make lifestyle changes to solve various problems, notably the energy shortages of the Seventies. He is a good man who served IMHO quite ably in a really effed up time. After all, Bill Battle was head coach when he was elected. LOL

Sounds like you got the memo

[OrangeEmpire]

Originally Posted by golfballs

Sounds like you got the memo

No joke