Speaking of Oregon...

[MG1968]

Oregon asks to kill salmon-eating birds - East Oregonian: Free

[therealUT]

Salmon is for people; not for birds.

[GoBigOrangeUT]

Originally Posted by MG1968

Oregon asks to kill salmon-eating birds - East Oregonian: Free

Is this a story to you because Oregon is an implied liberal state? Or is it because you actually care about the salmon-eating birds?

[MG1968]

Originally Posted by GoBigOrangeUT

Is this a story to you because Oregon is an implied liberal state? Or is it because you actually care about the salmon-eating birds?

it's a story to me because it highlights the idiocy of much of the environmental movement, particularly it's more radical fringe.

Kill a protected bird because it's killing a protected fish.

[GoBigOrangeUT]

Originally Posted by MG1968

it's a story to me because it highlights the idiocy of much of the environmental movement, particularly it's more radical fringe.

Kill a protected bird because it's killing a protected fish.

Agreed.

[Weezy]

Salmon > birds

[marcusluvsvols]

I would like to know how much money the EPA actually costs me every single day by increasing the costs of producing and operating just about everything consumed....dang shrub huggers. Did you know that if every tree hugger were laid head to toe around the equator...the world would be a better place.

[gsvol]

Bill Ayers Tells Oregon Students American Empire is Over | Brian Koenig

Anyways, Ayers' "end of the American Empire" schtick went as follows:


"The great challenge for our generation [is] to find a way not just to live differently as individuals, but to find a way to think differently about what work means, to think differently about citizenship means, to think differently about what it means to be a ‘citizen of the world.’ One of the great dangers that we live in right now, is I don‘t think there’s any question, and I don’t think any of you would question, that the American Empire is in decline – that economically, and politically, and in some ways culturally, that we are in decline. And yet, the United States remains the most powerful, weaponized military system the Earth has ever known."

The economy may be in decline, as well as this nation's fiscal status. So he's maybe correct on some level. And if government bureaucrats continue to spend beyond our means, as well as continuing to allude the skyrocketing debt of entitlements -- which, note, Ayers' approves of -- then maybe he, quite ironically, has a point.

[volinbham]

Evolution be damned!

[gsvol]

Havana, Oregon « Oregon Magazine

Step into a local city hall meeting in what looks like an ordinary Oregon city, and you might witness anti-America on parade.

Our own Bruce Harmon who works behind the scenes for this magazine, lives in one of the many Oregon cities prefaced by “The People’s Republic of…,” and in this case, Corvallis, Oregon, a hamlet near Salem.

[YorkVol]

A couple of nice quotes from the article:

Oregon officials were successful in getting permission to kill sea lions that feed on protected salmon trying to swim upriver to spawn. Now they want federal approval to shoot a sea bird that eats millions of baby salmon trying to reach the ocean.

Oregon needs federal approval to start shooting double-crested cormorants because the birds are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act.

The department already pays volunteers to harass cormorants with speedboats and firecrackers to keep them from feeding on young salmon and steelhead on five coastal estuaries, she said.

[milohimself]

Originally Posted by therealUT

Salmon is for people; not for birds.

How is it this goes overlooked? Salmon is a huge part of the state's economy outside of Portland.

[milohimself]

Originally Posted by gsvol

Havana, Oregon « Oregon Magazine

[milohimself]

Your sarcasm detector sucks

[gsvol]

Originally Posted by YorkVol

A couple of nice quotes from the article:

It is insane to tear down hydroelectric dams for the salmon when installing fish ladders would solve the perceived problem.

And it was criminal to stop irrigation water to the Klamath Valley for dubious environmental reasons.

That land was granted to WWI and WWII veterans with the promise of the neccessary irrigation water to farm the area and that promise was 'in perpetuity', meaning from now on.

After investing generations of hard work and fortunes to build irrigation canals and infrastructure, buy and maintain farm equipment and other investments, including homes, these people were told to just take a hike, the radical enviro lobby trumps all other considerations, including the honor of keeping the contract with the families of the war veterans.

Originally Posted by milohimself

Your sarcasm detector sucks

Your sarcasm sucks.

Go ahead and use all the sarcasm you wish and then delete or transfer my sarcastic reply to another thread, you aren't proving anything except how weak you are.

I'll bet the following chaps your sarcastic azz:

Pundit Press: Romney Surges to Within Four... In Oregon!

Perhaps you've been to Oregon, the hipster capital of the Pacific rim? The land of Subarus and home to Portland is sometimes seen as a bastion for Democratic and other left-of-center politicians. The state has shifted quite significantly to the left in the last decade, especially as the California exodus continues apace.

So Democrat Barack Obama should be winning by a landslide margin, correct? After all, he won by 16 points in 2008. After his endorsement of gay marriage, he should be surging-- and at least holding the ground he once held.

Instead, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has cut the Obama lead quite significantly. Two months ago, Romney was behind by 11%. That deficit has been cut by nearly 2/3.